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 Posted:   Oct 8, 2018 - 7:17 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

As far as continuing Star Trek as cartoons or animation goes, did you prefer THE ANIMATED SERIES or what they did in the GOLD KEY COMIC BOOKS?

Would the GOLD KEY COMIC Stories have worked in televised animated form?

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2018 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Though an animation fan I prefer the Gold Key Comics. While not screen accurate I love the pulp fiction style painted covers and the stories were better. I remember one where Kirk was framed for murder and they even had him on "video tape" doing the crime, and it ended up being a computer simulation. Wow, that story was way ahead of its time!

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2018 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Some of those Gold Key comics gave Spock seriously huge ears, and they alternately amused and terrified me as a kid.

The comics were reprinted some years back, though from the looks of it, not from the original art.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2018 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

The Alan Dean Foster novelizations of the animated series were such fun, maybe 25% of my love of the animated series comes from those great books. I still love 'em and watch an episode every so often. Especially The Slaver Weapon (a re-purposed Larry Niven story) and the great Yesteryear.

I've collected some of the Gold Key comics, but for me they are just no damn good - it's like some other pulpy sci-fi story wearing ill-fitting Star Trek Halloween costumes. I might like them better if they weren't so Star-Trek-wrong.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2018 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Has anybody seen this new mashup of Transformers G1 and Star Trek Animated Series?


Now the animated series IS a comic book. It's kinda stupid, but also a hoot!

https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-new-idw-comic-is-mashing-up-star-trek-and-transformer-1826960426

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2018 - 11:14 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

I guess the Animated Series would have been really hokey without the Voices of the Original Cast. That at least seemed to give it some Creedence, without the Clearwater Revival.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-EoyUtdLdc

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2018 - 8:05 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I guess the Animated Series would have been really hokey without the Voices of the Original Cast. That at least seemed to give it some Creedence, without the Clearwater Revival.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-EoyUtdLdc


I know none of them really had much of a career after Star Trek, but it's quite amazing they got the original cast to voice their characters. (minus Koenig) Apparently Nimoy refused to do the show without his co-stars. Koenig wasn't involved because they just couldn't afford everyone. Doohan and Nichols were cost effective because they did a lot of voice overs for secondary characters.

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2018 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I was only 2 when TAS debuted, so my introduction to it was much later. I believe Nickelodeon used to air it on Saturday afernoons in 1985 or so. I appreciated the original actors being involved, but I was thrown off by that off, warped-sounding theme that was obviously NOT the Alexander Courage composition. I didn't like the seahorse ensign or whatever she was supposed to be, either, so I quckly lost interest.

The Power Records series was much better.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2018 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I was 12 in 1973 when TAS debuted in Canada and at my sister's house on the day myself and my mother were to return to the UK. If I hadn't seen an issue of The Monster Times, and it's full page article I might never have seen it. But I did. Along with the cartoon version of I Dream of Jeannie.

Back home in the UK I hastily wrote a letter to the Radio Times, back when the BBC and ITV had different tv guides, so you had to buy both, requesting this show. Still have that mag somewhere. Only a couple of lines (they completely ignored the request about Super Friends) and of course it was shown. Originally on Saturday tea times (yep, Doctor Who time when in it's season break I guess).

There was a new lion woman ensign along with a totally new alien character... Erickson or something? And yes, I do remember the new not-quite-the-original theme tune. That WAS annoying then..

Gold Key comics never seemed to resemble the thing were reproducing in strip form. We did get them in the UK, and although the covers looked great, it looked as if they didn't care if the contents were right as long as the cash rolled in.

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2018 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Paul, I hope your redacted lines about The Superfriends was an "in favor of" remark. wink

Gold Key comics never seemed to resemble the thing were reproducing in strip form. We did get them in the UK, and although the covers looked great, it looked as if they didn't care if the contents were right as long as the cash rolled in.

I'd bet the likes of TV ACTION would have done a better job in their Trek renditions. I've read their--or whatever publication did them--take on THE PERSUADERS, though I never could accept Brett and Danny having adventures outside of the Europe of 1971-72 ("I think we're going to like Rio, Daniel!")

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2018 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Ooh, I never knew there was a Persuaders comic. No wonder I keep coming back to this side of the board! Thanks, Jim.

http://bronzeageofblogs.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-persuaders.html

(It's both TV Action and Countdown, though I barely know what those even are. Man there's a lot of British enterainment comics to explore, I don't even have Space 1999).

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I was 12 in 1973 when TAS debuted in Canada and at my sister's house on the day myself and my mother were to return to the UK. If I hadn't seen an issue of The Monster Times, and it's full page article I might never have seen it. But I did. Along with the cartoon version of I Dream of Jeannie.

Back home in the UK I hastily wrote a letter to the Radio Times, back when the BBC and ITV had different tv guides, so you had to buy both, requesting this show. Still have that mag somewhere. Only a couple of lines (they completely ignored the request about Super Friends) and of course it was shown. Originally on Saturday tea times (yep, Doctor Who time when in it's season break I guess).

There was a new lion woman ensign along with a totally new alien character... Erickson or something? And yes, I do remember the new not-quite-the-original theme tune. That WAS annoying then..

Gold Key comics never seemed to resemble the thing were reproducing in strip form. We did get them in the UK, and although the covers looked great, it looked as if they didn't care if the contents were right as long as the cash rolled in.


Lost In Space was one of the worst examples. Other than the title it looked nothing like the television series.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Lost In Space was one of the worst examples...

So many FSMers "of a certain age" love that show. I remember watching reruns on TBS every Sunday morning when I was a whippersnapper. I thought it was an incredibly frustrating and poorly rendered series.

The blonde daughter was a crush of mine, though. Yowza!

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Lost In Space was one of the worst examples...

So many FSMers "of a certain age" love that show. I remember watching reruns on TBS every Sunday morning when I was a whippersnapper. I thought it was an incredibly frustrating and poorly rendered series.

The blonde daughter was a crush of mine, though. Yowza!


As a kid I realized how bad the stories and characterizations were after the first five episodes. I liked the hardware, set designs (Jupiter 2) spaceships, aliens, special effects, sound effects, and music. The in camera model shots remain very impressive! It's truly one of the most dreadful sci fi series ever made. But there was so little sci fi being produced back then you took what you could get.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

It's one thing to like it as a child, but quite another to believe it was at any time any good.

I'm much younger than you wink and so my bad sci-fi TV series of choice was Buck Rogers in the 25th Century. Truly putrid, but I was eight and nursed a serious crush on Erin Grey--I even wrote her a fan letter and got a nice pack of photos and biographical info.

However, when season two began with eagle head guy and the mission in space, I was outta there. I've since watched the first season, and of course it is and was then, junk. I have no interest in ever seeing it again, even as nostalgia. "Biddibiddibiddi" and "Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!" are two expressions which traumatize me to this day. wink

Though I was absolutely correct in my love for Erin Grey.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2018 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I love the Animated Series. I grew up with it, so that's part of it. It was - in the dark times - the only legit new Star Trek in town. I was crushed when it was cancelled and replaced by the Van Williams series "Westwind." But many of the stories were still quite good and would make solid live action episodes.

I also loved the Gold Key comics, especially the initial issues. They were so damned wrong, I loved them. Kirk was a cranky asshole throughout and Scotty was always getting Spock's goat, rather than McCoy. The Army Surplus belts, backpacks and canteens were amazing, And Kirk was the only one to ever have a communicator on landing party missions, but it was drawn as a tricorder. The inside of the ship was like a submarine and also had a giant steering wheel in a few panels. The rocket blasts out of the nacelles were a gem, too. I always wished a fan film series would be based on that look.

As for Lost in Space: I love the first season, enjoy about half of the third and maybe 7 episodes of the second. Is it "good?" Nah, but very little 60's television SF really was. It was all disposable entertainment, just "anything goes" fantasy of the day. I love it.

Buck Rogers remains one of my favorite series. I love the second season as well. All around, a very fun series.

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2018 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Back when I had Neflix I re-watched all of season one and part of season two. I think it started out with some strong episodes then slipped into Saturday morning kiddie fare.

While I was impressed with the likenesses to the actual actors in the renderings, the animation was a turn off for me. They really had no budget and it shows.

I personally love the main title of the animated series.

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2018 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I personally love the main title of the animated series.

Especially since you thought it was the same one from TOS! big grin

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2018 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I personally love the main title of the animated series.

Especially since you thought it was the same one from TOS! big grin


I still do!

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2018 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Filmation had about the same budget as any animation house of the era. Hanna Barbera, for example, didn't rely on stock poses like Filmation did, but they had a much sketchier and uglier look at the time. Filmation, though, had more realistic figures and their backgrounds were gorgeous paintings, That's where a lot of the money went.

As a kid in 1974, the show was great to this fan who wanted more new Trek. I used to copy they style when I drew comics and even posed in family pictures like "Kirk running." It was a huge influence on me. NOstalgic, though, is a huge factor here, I fully admit.

 
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