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 Posted:   Dec 8, 2018 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Bach42t   (Member)

This is quite apt.
I've always looked upon Randy Edelman as the First Zimmer. The Grandfather of Media Ventures.
He seemed to start that homogenised orchestra/synth sound, taking a decent sized orchestra and making it sound like one big Super Synth.
And the anthem-like broad theme, layering it across scenes and itself becoming trailer music heaven.
All things that Zimmer and Co would go on to emulate and tweak.
So yeah, there's simpatico to this.


Hello, long-time reader, first-time post. Anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with you on this one. I am a big Edelman fan and have been since the early '90s. He has a long history (and he knows it personally) of being associated with underperforming films but his music is the silver lining in all of them. I especially remember the "D's" of 1996: Daylight, Diabolique, Dragon, Dragonheart, Down Periscope. No real theatrical winners but the music lives on... in my collection at least. Randy Edelman really did perfect the art (and science) of taking small budgets and opportunities where they presented themselves in these films to move emotionally however you want to call it big/vast/powerful intense walls of sound. Aided by the orchestration and mixing assistance of Ralph Ferraro and Elton Ahi respectively, Edelman had a wining combination. I have heard orchestral-pure versions of some of his films, namely Dragon and Gettysburg and they, to my ears, sound thin. I absolutely love the combination of electronic with orchestral and he did it and obviously wasn't shy about it. I am looking forward to Backdraft II but I wonder if there will be a soundtrack release for this. I hope so and in this case, it's rare - usually someone else scores Edelman's sequels but not in this case. Unlike something like Boy Next Door which lends itself to more subtle tracks, with Backdraft II we may be able to get that old explosive, melodic magic that Edelman was really known for back in the 90's.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2018 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Great post, Bach! I agree.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 8, 2018 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

Agree as well.

Graham

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2018 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   scoreaholic   (Member)

Well Zimmer used a Edelman theme in Broken Arrow, so only fitting that Edelman use Zimmer's theme in this sequel.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2018 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   AndyDursin   (Member)

Well, reading the actual news article that Justin posted about in the first thread, this is not the big budget thing I initially thought -- more like a straight-to-DVD/BR/streaming-type thing

Universal's "1440" label is code for made-for-video productions.

 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2018 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Well Zimmer used a Edelman theme in Broken Arrow, so only fitting that Edelman use Zimmer's theme in this sequel.

What theme?

 
 Posted:   Dec 15, 2018 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Well Zimmer used a Edelman theme in Broken Arrow, so only fitting that Edelman use Zimmer's theme in this sequel.

What theme?


The Fire In A Brooklyn Theatre stuff from Come See The Paradise. I don’t have the LLL version to know why it’s credited now, but I imagine someone got litigious.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2019 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

Randy Edelman is a tunesmith. The man can do melody. He is one of my all time favorites. Both his film music and solo work are wonderful. I am not going to hold my breath, but I for one am hoping Backdraft II gets a CD release and at the very minimum a digital release.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2019 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Coming from BACKLOT digitally on May 10:

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2019 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11877/.f?sc=13&category=22848

Up for sale now.

It's unfortunate they weren't able to release an expanded edition of the originial Backdraft to be released alongside this one though.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2019 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

"Coming from BACKLOT, not INTRADA on May 10:"

We had this same confusion a month or two or so ago where Backlot did a release, and Intrada did the physical CD. Backlot doing something does not mean Intrada is not.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2019 - 6:12 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

The “Sean” theme sounds like Benjamin’s theme from Benjamin Button.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2019 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

"Coming from BACKLOT, not INTRADA on May 10:"

We had this same confusion a month or two or so ago where Backlot did a release, and Intrada did the physical CD. Backlot doing something does not mean Intrada is not.


I went back an edited my post - and you're right. smile

I do like the album cover.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2019 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Did anyone hear this? How is it compared to Zimmer? No Zimmer theme adaptations?

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2019 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

Did anyone hear this? How is it compared to Zimmer? No Zimmer theme adaptations?

It's a low budget affair, synthetic orchestra. No Zimmer themes, as far as I can tell. It's pretty bad.

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2019 - 1:00 AM   
 By:   CrazyQuark   (Member)

It's filled with energy, melody and emotion.
@First Breath, I'm sure you'll enjoy it! At least, I do.

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2019 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I like Edelman but the samples didn't sound all that good. Hopefully the full OST sounds better. And why a low budget sequel no one asked for?

 
 
 Posted:   May 12, 2019 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Edelman used to excel at comedies - Kindergarten Cop, The Distinguished Gentleman, Beethoven all great. Occasionally he managed a good drama - Come See The Paradise. But when he goes into blockbuster territory - The Mummy III - oh dear, no!

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2019 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I love his scores across many genres- Gettysburg, Dragonheart, Daylight, While you Were Sleeping, Last of the Mohicans, Gods and Generals, Balls of Fury.

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2019 - 6:23 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

Second listen was the key for this score enthusiast.

Knowing what to expect and what not to expect made for a better listening experience.

Love the track Long Search And Rescue.

Graham

 
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