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 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 1:29 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

I know that there probably already are numerous posts about that
OSCAR year...in which Empire lost to Fame...but was there any original score for FAME????The songs are nice ok..but the score compared to a milestone score like Empire..give me a breakwink

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 2:49 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Hey moolik, it's the Oscars. I didn't even know that FAME won that year, nor that EMPIRE lost. I didn't even know they were nominated.

Having said that, I suppose we should be outraged after seeing how - thanks to that year's Oscar fiasco - Michael Gore went on to become one of the most successful composers in history, while John Williams was abandoned by the industry, his last credit being one of the songs from the stage show "Carrie: The Musical".

But no sour grapes, man! Who would want to be a successful anything in Hollywood today? I think that Gore is less "happy" being part of the industry. It has stifled his creativity, whereas John Williams, even at age 90, can always make that move to Bollywood in the hope of getting a hit song while begging for rice in the street.

I hate the Oscars. Alfred Hitchcock would still be deservedly considered a talentless hack if it weren't for the dozens of "Best Director" Oscars he won throughout his pitiful career.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

How could FAME and Empire even be in the same category? One contained songs, the other an orchestral score.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

It's ALL music though.
And some of the songs on the FAME soundtrack are way better to dance to than the songs on THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK soundtrack.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Graham Watt, do you have a permit for that weapons-grade sarcasm?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

I like your sarcasm..( forgot your name while posting sorry..)..I don't give a damn about the OSCARS either..I was just wondering..Is there a score for FAME???

I can't recall any?

Strangest win for me..

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

This is why they used to have the Adapted Score or Song Score category.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   BrendonKelly   (Member)

Midnight Express won over Superman.

Say no more...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Midnight Express won over Superman.

Say no more...


Both brilliant scores for different reasons, so nothing like the FAME/EMPIRE debacle. I, too, have problems remembering anything of Gore's score for FAME, but it's been ages since I saw the film. It's obviously a bit like FULL MONTY, where people voted for the songs rather than the score.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Yes, I have often wondered why FAME was even nominated for "Original Score"? Songs, hey, sure, by all means... but score??

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2018 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

You're all wrong. THAT YEAR, it should not have gone to 'Empire Strikes Back'. It should also not have gone to 'Fame'. It was meant to go to Philippe Sarde, for 'TESS'.

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2018 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Oh well, at least Williams lost justifiably when Conti's THE RIGHT STUFF won the Oscar three years later.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2018 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

You're all wrong. THAT YEAR, it should not have gone to 'Empire Strikes Back'. It should also not have gone to 'Fame'. It was meant to go to Philippe Sarde, for 'TESS'.

Agree! Tess was the best 'original' score.

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2018 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Tess must be the hipster pick for Best Original Score, as it's had no posts or threads bumped since 2013...going by the infallible FSM search engine...

...Empire Strikes Back, on the other hand...one post and three topics every five seconds...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2018 - 10:39 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

You're all wrong. THAT YEAR, it should not have gone to 'Empire Strikes Back'. It should also not have gone to 'Fame'. It was meant to go to Philippe Sarde, for 'TESS'.

Agree! Tess was the best 'original' score.


Glad to see I'm not alone in feeling this way. TESB is awesome, but Tess is high art (and contains what is possibly my favorite love theme of all time).

After Tess, I'd rate Altered States as most Oscar-worthy that year.

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2018 - 10:49 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

You're all wrong. THAT YEAR, it should not have gone to 'Empire Strikes Back'. It should also not have gone to 'Fame'. It was meant to go to Philippe Sarde, for 'TESS'.

Wrong.
ALTERED STATES

I have all three.
Tess
Esb

Possibly the only year three nominees are in my collection!

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2018 - 11:06 PM   
 By:   Mark R. Y.   (Member)

You're all wrong. THAT YEAR, it should not have gone to 'Empire Strikes Back'. It should also not have gone to 'Fame'. It was meant to go to Philippe Sarde, for 'TESS'.

Wrong.
ALTERED STATES


=gives Marshall a thumbs up=

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2018 - 12:51 AM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

TESS gets my vote too. An absolutely beautiful score that rarely gets a mention on this site. Sarde continues to be one of my very favourite composers...his 2013 score for Bertrand Tavernier's film "Quai D'Orsay" is wonderful.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2018 - 1:10 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Yes TESS is a lovely score and ALTERED STATES is a highly sophisticated and complex one too.
All I like a lot.
But THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK just pushed it a bit further...it was so well written and "attached "to the movie.
Well here comes "taste" again.
Anything but FAMEsmile

Concerning MIDNIGHT EXPRESS and SUPERMAN...well I love SUPERMAN but in that case I kinda understand why it went to MIDNIGHT EXPRESS. Its a highly effective and "new"score.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2018 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

As good as ESB is, it never thrilled me in the way SW did.

 
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