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 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

The Trailer:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5985672/?ref_=tttr_tr_tt

John White at IMDB:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0924986/?ref_=tt_cl_t12

Jerry Goldsmith seems to maybe only have a cameo.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Wait, what? Color me intrigued!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   Bill in Portland Maine   (Member)

Ouch. What an awkward opening graphic: "Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco composed over 200 Hollywood movies."

No. He "scored" over 200 Hollywood movies...or he "composed the music for over 200 Hollywood movies."

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 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

Ouch. What an awkward opening graphic: "Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco composed over 200 Hollywood movies."

No. He "scored" over 200 Hollywood movies...or he "composed the music for over 200 Hollywood movies."

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Typical of those low-low-low budget, minor-minor-MINOR film festival indies.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 5:42 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Ouch. What an awkward opening graphic: "Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco composed over 200 Hollywood movies."

No. He "scored" over 200 Hollywood movies...or he "composed the music for over 200 Hollywood movies."

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Not a promising start...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Ummm.... did Tedesco actually compose that many scores? I thought he was primarily a music teacher.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   gmontag451   (Member)

Ouch. What an awkward opening graphic: "Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco composed over 200 Hollywood movies."

No. He "scored" over 200 Hollywood movies...or he "composed the music for over 200 Hollywood movies."

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Not a promising start...


But surely the filmmakers weren't involved with the making of the trailer?

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2019 - 10:51 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Ummm.... did Tedesco actually compose that many scores? I thought he was primarily a music teacher.


No. A session guitarist. Played on many scores.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 12:57 AM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

Are they somehow implying his contributions to his students was so great that his music is part of these composer’s works? Sounds a bit of a stretch though to say it was 200 scores worth.

Either way very intriguing to see a film about film music with actors playing composers we know.

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 2:05 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

He was incredibly prolific, just not often credited.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2019 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   MD   (Member)

Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco (1895–1968)

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005997/#composer

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005997/#music_department

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

Ummm.... did Tedesco actually compose that many scores? I thought he was primarily a music teacher.


No. A session guitarist. Played on many scores.


Actually it was his son, Tommy Tedesco, who was a session guitarist.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

Ummm.... did Tedesco actually compose that many scores? I thought he was primarily a music teacher.


No. A session guitarist. Played on many scores.


Actually it was his son, Tommy Tedesco, who was a session guitarist.


For more on Tommy Tedesco see the film "The Wrecking Crew" about studio musicians.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2019 - 12:00 AM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

One of the producers is James Westby, a good guy who is THE Tedesco expert in the world, in charge of his archive.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2019 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Who the f..is Tedesco.And why a movie in which the higlights are probably the real giants of filmmusic.
As Jim Morrison said:" Did you have a good life...enough to base a movie on?"
Well did he?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2019 - 4:49 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Who the f..is Tedesco.And why a movie in which the higlights are probably the real giants of filmmusic.
As Jim Morrison said:" Did you have a good life...enough to base a movie on?"
Well did he?


A pretty interesting life I believe, moolik. I'll be surprised if the film turns out to be about a man who wants to write music for films.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 3:21 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Stayed up untill 3 am last night to see this.

Well, THAT was much ado about nothing!

First of all, the film isn't very good. It's rather stale and languid and empty. Quite boring, in fact, with no real, involving intrigue or interesting angle, IMO. Kudos for the warm, orange cinematography, sort of encapsulating the LA setting in a romantic, Italian summer vibe (just as the students are encapsulated by the Italian teacher). But WHIPLASH, this ain't!

Now, for the Williams bit. As suspected, it was just a super-brief 'flash'. In the beginning of the film, the narrator mentions six composers that Mario Tedelnuovo-Tedesco tutored -- Andre Previn, Nelson Riddle, Jerry Goldsmith, Henry Mancini, John Williams and "Jerry Hirst". They're shown in brief, b/w flashes as if they were archival footage. "Williams" turns from from the piano to the camera, and it's all over in 2 seconds. Blink and you'll miss it! While the actor Fuller has a faint resemblance to JW at the time, the 'glasses' thing is completely off. AFAIK, Williams didn't wear glasses at that time. See screenshot below.

And the actor they got to be Mancini, was totally weird. He looks nothing at all like Mancini (neither then nor in later life), and just seems like some random Italian dude they'd pulled in from the streets. See screenshot below.

All of this begs the question: If that was all there was to it, why not just use real archival footage or photos? Could there be some issues related to permissions, rights or money that forced them to use actors for these brief flashes?

At least the brief cameos of "Igor Stravinsky" and "Stanley Kubrick" have a presence in the film itself (Stravinsky as Hirst bumps into him in the streets, Kubrick as a guy filming MTT and Hirst at a party). No such luck with the composers, although at one point we see another student of MTT play brilliantly; a guy who according to MTT will 'have great success', but he's unnamed and he's not one of the five composers from the opening).



 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 3:25 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

And since this thread (out of the 3-4 threads about this film) was angled at Goldsmith, here's his 2-second "cameo" too:

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Brundlefly   (Member)

They should have casted Dustin Hoffman to portray Jerry Goldsmith.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • And the actor they got to be Mancini, was totally weird. He looks nothing at all like Mancini (neither then nor in later life), and just seems like some random Italian dude they'd pulled in from the streets. See screenshot below.



    Jack Lemmon as Mancini? SWEET!

  • And since this thread (out of the 3-4 threads about this film) was angled at Goldsmith, here's his 2-second "cameo" too:



    Bruce Dern as Goldsmith? HUH. Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhuh. Cue The Burbs, I guess?

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