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 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   NUMBER 6   (Member)

is it possible ? i know there is a short trumpet duel at the begining but i am not sure if there are some other. I know the film was stolen for a ransom at the time and maybe the music also ! But like IL MIO NOME E NESSUNO album there could be alternates tracks ?

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   steffromuk   (Member)

This is one of my holly grails!
It's surely one of the very best works of Morricone

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

This is one of my holly grails!
It's surely one of the very best works of Morricone



???????

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   NUMBER 6   (Member)

Here we go again, people who are supposed to be film music fans but are nothing more than losers that are there to made fools of people ! Maybe they don't know that this way of life is dated and obsolete ! Well, i will update my anti-virus since those creeps are hard to delete.

PS this form of life should go to other forums, its like a football fan in a poetry forum !

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   Col. Flagg   (Member)

is it possible ? i know there is a short trumpet duel at the begining but i am not sure if there are some other. I know the film was stolen for a ransom at the time and maybe the music also ! But like IL MIO NOME E NESSUNO album there could be alternates tracks ?

Serious question: is this version not already expanded?

https://www.discogs.com/Ennio-Morricone-Un-Genio-Due-Compari-Un-Pollo-Sonny-Jed-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtracks/release/7844231

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 10:03 PM   
 By:   Score-Man-X   (Member)



Serious question: is this version not already expanded?



It's only the old LP content! But I am not sure if other track recordings still exist ...

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2019 - 11:11 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)



Serious question: is this version not already expanded?



It's only the old LP content! But I am not sure if other track recordings still exist ...



Had the lp.
Aint no NOBODY.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Its true, it was always the poor cousin of Nobody - a kind of weaker doppelganger - but...it has moments.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I thought I knew all of Morricone's westerns, but I have never seen nor heard of this one. I finally googled it. I found some youtube cuts of the score. A lot of it is very light or comedic sounding.

However, I did find one theme that I liked. I wonder why he referenced the famous classical piece, but I'm sure he had his reasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hewqiM4ssGY


Thanks Sentenza for bringing attention to this score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

I too would love to see an expanded Un Genio but I'm afraid the mastertapes are lost. I saw the film recently and I can tell you it contains quite a lot of missing music (mostly alternate versions), including that great (but too brief!) duel music for trumpet, choir and guitar:
https://youtu.be/pgbplmdS2PQ?t=283

Most of the previously released tracks were recorded specifically for the album I think.

My name is nobody also contains several unreleased versions, and it's really a shame they didn't include the actual film version of the "fake" duel music (Se sei qualcuno...) which is superb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wAkgsjexHs

Also not included on the CD is this variation of the same theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbifFg6KBxQ (fortunately this one is available on a compilation album).

instead, for some strange reason the expanded CD includes a number of versions not used in the film. Furthermore, some of the saloon piano and fairground pieces are pretty good and would have been nice to have, but neither of those are included.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Its true, it was always the poor cousin of Nobody - a kind of weaker doppelganger - but...it has moments.

NOBODY does it better!

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Thanks for the tip! wink This one was totally unknown to me. I'll definitely check it out, I like what I've seen and heard of it now.

OT - I may be asking for it here, but I recently watched GBU the other night and of the many times I have seen it, it's the first I've noticed of the (perceived, anyway) passing similarity of the opening 5 notes to a rooster crow. No offense intended.
Am I right?

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

It's a coyote yelp!

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Death rides a horse on retro movies uk tv right now

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   NUMBER 6   (Member)

I thought I knew all of Morricone's westerns, but I have never seen nor heard of this one. I finally googled it. I found some youtube cuts of the score. A lot of it is very light or comedic sounding.

However, I did find one theme that I liked. I wonder why he referenced the famous classical piece, but I'm sure he had his reasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hewqiM4ssGY


Thanks Sentenza for bringing attention to this score.


its because the name of the girl is the name of this classical piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7zUi0-zflM

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   NUMBER 6   (Member)



 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   NUMBER 6   (Member)

Death rides a horse on retro movies uk tv right now

And what about Arch Stanton ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7nPOzGeyaw

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2019 - 5:45 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

He also used "Fur Elise" for the duel in BIG GUNDOWN- as the thene for the German gunfighter.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2019 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   David Anthony   (Member)

Shame to hear some less than enthusiastic comments about this score, I've had the LP for over 30 years and have the Quartet CD as well, and enjoy it immensely. The outstanding track on it is probably 'Cavalcade...pour Elise' with the Beethoven quotation, Edda and the chorus, but as a listening experience the whole album is excellent. I enjoy all the more comedic Italian western scores EM wrote in this period like the PROVIDENZA scores. You can really see the composers sense of humour come out in these scores, such imaginative orchestration!
I'm not sure why so much emphasis on the comparison with NOBODY, agreed it is not on the same level, but just saying that is not IMHO a reason for such dismissive comments (by one person in particular). It's very strange to me that anyone who enjoyed NOBODY would not enjoy UN GENIO as well, but hey ho.
My understanding is also that the tapes are lost, shame as I also recall some different music and variations in the movie.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2019 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   NUMBER 6   (Member)

Shame to hear some less than enthusiastic comments about this score, I've had the LP for over 30 years and have the Quartet CD as well, and enjoy it immensely. The outstanding track on it is probably 'Cavalcade...pour Elise' with the Beethoven quotation, Edda and the chorus, but as a listening experience the whole album is excellent. I enjoy all the more comedic Italian western scores EM wrote in this period like the PROVIDENZA scores. You can really see the composers sense of humour come out in these scores, such imaginative orchestration!
I'm not sure why so much emphasis on the comparison with NOBODY, agreed it is not on the same level, but just saying that is not IMHO a reason for such dismissive comments (by one person in particular). It's very strange to me that anyone who enjoyed NOBODY would not enjoy UN GENIO as well, but hey ho.
My understanding is also that the tapes are lost, shame as I also recall some different music and variations in the movie.


refreshing to see that there are still some soundtrack fans here that like something else than Goldsmith !

 
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