He's got an 'additional arrangements' credit, so that might be promising regards a certain piece of music. I do suspect that in any case, that piece on Youtube that is winding people up is a suite/mix unique to that Badelt promo, and any quote of that music will be different in the score on this album. But I'll listen out for it.
Thanks for the details, ghost of 82. But why a replacement cover? A typo?
Yes the original printing said '20th Anniverary Expanded Edition' (missing the 's') which has been fixed on the replacement printing, as well as the addition of a dedication to the late Nick Redman on the inlay side. I certainly appreciate it being packaged in a card envelope as it arrived perfect and enabled me to swap out the cover easily, and the tribute to Nick is a lovely way to mark with some respect the sad timing of this release.
He's got an 'additional arrangements' credit, so that might be promising regards a certain piece of music. I do suspect that in any case, that piece on Youtube that is winding people up is a suite/mix unique to that Badelt promo, and any quote of that music will be different in the score on this album. But I'll listen out for it.
I can't wait until Tuesday when the usual bitching and moaning about not getting what you all have built up to expect happens.
James
Boy, was this post ever prescient.
Gee, at least the complaints are valid. Its not as if we are bitching because say, oh I dunno....BACK TO THE FUTURE finally gets released but its 'ruined' because " It's Been Educational " seques into CLOCKTOWER!
Usually one has to first kick over the rotten log to find something ugly and squirming like this.
Another FSM thread ruined by the drunks in the cheap seats. And Shaun, you ain't helping.
I, too, hope that it could be included! (BTW - it was arranged by Klaus Badelt and could be heard on a promotional CD of his earlier music, before he branched out on his own. Sorry to be a hair-splitter...vee Tchermanns ah like zat! )
This is indeed included. Its on the second track, Witt and the Melanesians- the only caveat is that the first section of the track is some lovely almost ambient mood music with a familiar TRL theme and the piece you are after fades in at the 1:17 mark, continuing on to the end of the track at 2:53. If there's any difference I can't discern it, although as it fades in it might be missing something at the start. It also reprises (in somewhat different orchestration etc) in Witts Travels. Not sure about anywhere else, I haven't been able to sit down properly with my discs yet (you wait 20 years for a complete (ish) TRL OST and then Real Life keeps you too busy to hear it).
In the film there is also an orchestral arrangement of Faure's "in Paradiso"; that is the the organ piece heard in the film where Witt is canoeing. If it isn't on the cd that's ok. SO, I think we have the two pieces we all wanted.
Still gonna wait for a sale though , like I did for DAD> 25% off is $15- the cost of tax and shipping! brm
p.s. I think it reprises in z"Witt;s death" or "Funeral"
There's absolutely no classical music included. It's all Zimmer (and collaborators) only, which is fine as it almost feels like Goldsmith's original Alien score before Terry Rawlings cut it up and replaced some of it with other Goldsmith pieces etc. It's a marvelous piece of work but not exactly what we are familiar with in the film.
I, too, hope that it could be included! (BTW - it was arranged by Klaus Badelt and could be heard on a promotional CD of his earlier music, before he branched out on his own. Sorry to be a hair-splitter...vee Tchermanns ah like zat! )
This is indeed included. Its on the second track, Witt and the Melanesians- the only caveat is that the first section of the track is some lovely almost ambient mood music with a familiar TRL theme and the piece you are after fades in at the 1:17 mark, continuing on to the end of the track at 2:53. If there's any difference I can't discern it, although as it fades in it might be missing something at the start. It also reprises (in somewhat different orchestration etc) in Witts Travels. Not sure about anywhere else, I haven't been able to sit down properly with my discs yet (you wait 20 years for a complete (ish) TRL OST and then Real Life keeps you too busy to hear it).
You're giving bad info.
The exact version in the YouTube clip does not appear on the CDs. Witt and the Melanesians features a different arrangement than the YouTube video, with different orchestration and a sped up ending.
The theme appears again in a different form in Witt Killed; the Witt/Welsh theme (which comes from a different Melanesian chant) is what appears in Witt Travels.
The exact version in the YouTube clip does not appear on the CDs. Witt and the Melanesians features a different arrangement than the YouTube video, with different orchestration and a sped up ending.
The exact version in the YouTube clip does not appear on the CDs. Witt and the Melanesians features a different arrangement than the YouTube video, with different orchestration and a sped up ending.
The exact version in the YouTube clip does not appear on the CDs. Witt and the Melanesians features a different arrangement than the YouTube video, with different orchestration and a sped up ending.
do either version appear in the film?
To my ears, the exact version heard in the Youtube clip above is indeed the version heard in the film (see scene below, from 1:00 onwards)
It's unfortunate that the version on the new expanded score is a faster arrangement. But the expanded set is still superb overall.
I've listened to the album several times now, and it's a beautifully crafted, soaring piece of work. Yes, it's different in many places to what we heard in the final film. This is routine for Malick, he keeps on tinkering and experimenting and substituting music, replaying sequences with different music until he gets what he wants, it happens with all his films.
Its a lot like Alien. The Intrada 2-disc release allows us to hear Goldsmiths original score, and then the alternates that Scott and Rawlings used for the main titles etc. The release also has the original album OST. But there are still pieces in the film not on that release- the music from Freud, some of the classical pieces. But Intrada's Alien is a great package and musical work.
The first two discs of LLL's TRL offer a glimpse of a TRL score we didn't really know existed. I think much of it is extraordinary, and wish more of this could be heard in the film. Its Zimmer's finest and most sophisticated work in my opinion. The OST remastered on Disc 3 offers us some music closer to the film we knew- the opening music with its synth opening, the sequences with the Beam music, it doesn't feature in the first 2 discs. Yes in some ways Disc 4 is overkill considering so little of it appeared in the film, but really it's a lovely companion piece, the chants/songs a part of the soul of the film.
But really the meat of the release are those two first two discs. Zimmer apparently wanted the release to include the 4 discs and as the artist responsible he has the final word, and if this facilitated the release of those first two discs its a price worth paying. Sure it's still missing some pieces, but at least the classical pieces are easily sourced elsewhere. I think its a great album.
As someone who never bought the Spartacus box that Varese released years ago, no matter my love of that score, because of the price and the inclusion of material I didn't want, I fully understand why some refuse to buy this set. We all have our financial limits and can only value somethings worth by personal markers. But this set is really fine and I'd urge anyone on the fence just to reconsider. These releases don't come along often and may not again.
Perhaps LL will include TRL in a sale which makes it more affordable to those hesitating. It deserves to sell-out, because it deserves to be out in the world being heard.
Thanks. I know Maick is a tinkerer and didnt expect the ' film versions' We just wanted the two themes , that represents Witt , whose prescence made the film score so memorable. The ost is great but... This looks like a great release and will no doubt be a treasured part of collection.
Can't remember ever seeing this movie.. but it is Zimmer & over the years I've grown to like his input too scores, so this is very interesting indeed hopefully I like it. Well done LLL. Great stuff, thanks.
The exact version in the YouTube clip does not appear on the CDs. Witt and the Melanesians features a different arrangement than the YouTube video, with different orchestration and a sped up ending.
do either version appear in the film?
To my ears, the exact version heard in the Youtube clip above is indeed the version heard in the film (see scene below, from 1:00 onwards)
It's unfortunate that the version on the new expanded score is a faster arrangement. But the expanded set is still superb overall.
Probably Malick asked Badelt to do redo what Hans had done originally.
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