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Feb 20, 2019 - 6:31 AM
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Oh, if we're now talking 1984 scores that were NOT nominated, there are several worthy titles:
BEVERLY HILLS COP, GREMLINS, THE KARATE KID, STAR TREK III, CHILDREN OF THE CORN, GREYSTOKE, THE BOUNTY, ROMANCING THE STONE, FIRESTARTER, ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA, STREETS OF FIRE, CONAN THE DESTROYER, THE NEVERENDING STORY, BUCKAROO BANZAI, THIEF OF HEARTS, BODY DOUBLE, PARIS/TEXAS, THE TERMINATOR (more for how it works in the film than as a musical piece), THE KILLING FIELDS, DUNE, STARMAN etc. etc.
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Feb 20, 2019 - 4:49 PM
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As soon as I heard the blandness of Jarre's effort for "Passage to India," I knew it was going to win the Oscar, and I dreaded every second up until the moment it inevitably happened. It was not deserved, but its connection to David Lean's final film gave it the perceived gravitas that's like catnip to Academy voters. (For the record, his contribution to "Top Secret" that same year was superior.)
Under the Volcano? Nah. No way. North deserved Oscars, but not for that.
Temple of Doom was big and noisy in all the best ways. But despite boasting a scene with a literal beating heart, the score itself lacked heart. Still, a great listen if you want to get your pulse pounding. (Adding: His loss in 1981 to Vangelis was infuriating. Raiders was the indisputable best score in every way that year. The way Williams landed beats to match the action was insane...beyond genius level.)
I have a real soft spot for "The River," and I think it's one of Williams' most under-appreciated scores. It's full of heart. The "Ancestral Home" cut alone is classic lump-in-the-throat stuff, and the entire effort is classic Williams Americana. Someone has GOT to get this released on CD.
But Randy Newman ultimately gets my vote. The Natural (minus the cheesy synthesized version of the main theme---not used in the film---which inexplicably shared a Grammy with Williams' Olympic Theme that year) out-Americana'd Williams. It supported that lovely film beautifully and for my money is the most enjoyable of the nominees to listen to from start to finish. I consider it Newman's finest score. He nailed it.
Really robbed that year: Elmer Bernstein, whose classic "Ghostbusters" score should've been on the list in place of North's. That movie does not exist without Elmer's contribution.
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I agree with most of the above - four fifths actually. For me it's "Passage to India" that should be left out. I was never really fond of Jarre's score but, yes, we know, it was for a film by David Lean... North's is a fine effort and IMHO worthy of the nomination - and that lovely "Pastorale" cue has stuck in my mind ever since!
"The Natural" is Randy Newman's best score (followed by "Avalon" IMHO). It should have won. "The River" comes second - a quite close second in fact.
(Except JW's seminal score for "Raiders" that went home empty handed - an almost criminal act indeed - Newman's "Ragtime" and North's "Dragonslayer" that same year were also better than "Chariots of Fire". Those three composers happened to be co-nominees in 1982 and 1985 and both times their scores lost to an inferior work...)
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For me it's "Passage to India" that should be left out.
Yeah. I could live with that.
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Not a great year for scores.
LLLLOOOOLLLL!!!!
Let's see:
RECKLESS
WHERE THE BOYS ARE '84
THE BOUNTY
FIRESTARTER
THE NEVERENDING STORY
REVENGE OF THE NERDS
GRANDVIEW USA
THE ADVENTURES OF BUCKAROO BANZAI
FLASHPOINT
THIEF OF HEARTS
BEVERLY HILLS COP
BIRDY
MRS. SOFFEL
BODY ROCK
GIMME AN F
HEARTBREAKERS
TUFF TURF
A BREED APART
I could probably go on...
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THE NATURAL.
Naturally!
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