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 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

This music really calls for a 3cd-set with complete recorded score and alternate takes of all previous released Music - and the OST on cd3 smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Agreed. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 6:26 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

This music really calls for a 3cd-set with complete recorded score and alternate takes of all previous released Music - and the OST on cd3 smile

If any label did this I might not ever buy from them ever again.

Seriously, Superman has already stretched it to the point of ridiculousness. Only the fact the Blue Box exists saves that one.

But I seem to be the only one who feels this way.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Never heard of it. Is it any good?

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

Between the Anthology Box Set and the 1997 Special Edition you really have everything you need to create a full score CD-R of your own. I did it and am very satisfied with it.

That said, I'd buy a new edition in a heartbeat if LLL tackled the job.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Between the Anthology Box Set and the 1997 Special Edition you really have everything you need to create a full score CD-R of your own. I did it and am very satisfied with it.

That would be great if most collectors were happy with a CD-R, but I know I want a pressed CD. And the 1997 Special Editions were 22 years ago. Certainly better sound is possible now...

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   King Solium   (Member)

This music really calls for a 3cd-set with complete recorded score and alternate takes of all previous released Music - and the OST on cd3 smile

If any label did this I might not ever buy from them ever again.

Seriously, Superman has already stretched it to the point of ridiculousness. Only the fact the Blue Box exists saves that one.

But I seem to be the only one who feels this way.


Improved sound of a classic score merited another release.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

I have the Blue Box but i will replace it

Such is the life of a soundtrack completist collector



It's the way of lifeā€¦ the way of the force wink


and there might be the chance to seperate the cues (that needs space between like in the film) a bit more even though the 1997 release were almost acceptable regarding that smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

And the 1997 Special Editions were 22 years ago. Certainly better sound is possible now...

Better sound was possible then. The mastering was screwed terribly on the '97 releases.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

This music really calls for a 3cd-set with complete recorded score and alternate takes of all previous released Music - and the OST on cd3 smile

If any label did this I might not ever buy from them ever again.

Seriously, Superman has already stretched it to the point of ridiculousness. Only the fact the Blue Box exists saves that one.

But I seem to be the only one who feels this way.


So, did you never buy from Varese again after the Spartacus box? wink In my mind, that one was truly ridiculous.

I'm on board for the 3-CD presentation. It would be the best of both worlds. The complete score along with Williams' album arrangement. Win/win!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)



I'm on board for the 3-CD presentation. It would be the best of both worlds. The complete score along with Williams' album arrangement. Win/win!




Even Thor cannot resist it wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Why would anyone want or need the OST on disc 3? Hasn't that recently been released by Disney?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Why would anyone want or need the OST on disc 3? Hasn't that recently been released by Disney?

It was, but there were a great deal of complaints here concerning the mastering of the album (or was that just Empire).

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   King Solium   (Member)

Why would anyone want or need the OST on disc 3? Hasn't that recently been released by Disney?

It was, but there were a great deal of complaints here concerning the mastering of the album (or was that just Empire).


The first two for sure had mastering issues. Muffled sound, sound fluctuating, missing or dialed out instruments. Give them credit for trying but it was not a successful endeavor.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

But it would be cool to have some of those "wrong" cues (but only those with missing instruments) from the Disney release in the bonus section just to fill out space

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

Never heard of it. Is it any good?

Me neither. It's by the same guy who did Earthquake isn't it? I wasn't a fan of Earthquake so I'm not interested.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

My money's on DAMNATION ALLEY.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

Why would anyone want or need the OST on disc 3? Hasn't that recently been released by Disney?

It was, but there were a great deal of complaints here concerning the mastering of the album (or was that just Empire).


The first two for sure had mastering issues. Muffled sound, sound fluctuating, missing or dialed out instruments. Give them credit for trying but it was not a successful endeavor.


I always thought Empire and Jedi had the worst sound quality of the three. New Hope had what sounded like a hot mix but the quality on the 97 set was okay to my ears with a little tweaking. I've not listened to the Anthology so I can't say for sure but Jedi sounds pretty awful on the 97 set. Empire sounds muffled but no where near as bad as Jedi--which is odd because the studio sound is much more reverb rich on Jedi than the first two.

I remember listening to SW audio books for the Heir To The Empire Trilogy when I was a kid and they tracked in some score from Return of the Jedi and it sounded amazing and crisp--Into the Trap comes to mind--so I went and listened to the 97 set again to see if maybe the audio books used a rerecording or something but it was the same recording, just with much worse audio quality. I never understood how the audiobooks could have such great sounding versions of the score while the actual soundtrack sounded like it was playing on a boombox inside a dumpster.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

If any label did this I might not ever buy from them ever again.

Seriously, Superman has already stretched it to the point of ridiculousness. Only the fact the Blue Box exists saves that one.

But I seem to be the only one who feels this way.


Perhaps so. This is supposedly a community of people who care about classic film music being preserved and released and who support it as much as possible, isn't it? Your post seems to express the polar opposite of this.

Is it ridiculous to have an expanded Superman: The Movie as a separate release? That was bound to happen anyway, even if it was just a reissue of the box set content.

Or was it ridiculous for an independent label to use that opportunity to do a fresh hi-resolution capture of the scoring masters that had last been transferred 18 years prior? And then when the precious first generation masters were found to exist, was it ridiculous for the the label to spend money that the studio would NOT spend to preserve the material... and use that for their new release?

With respect, what seems ridiculous to me is confining John Williams' Superman score to an out of print box set, as successful and stellar as that project was. Also ridiculous would be to not seize the opportunity to improve it, so that more people could get it and fall in love with it. The label would like to stay in business so it's also not ridiculous to get excited about the new version -- but the excitement is legitimate and well founded.

No one is ever forced to buy anything, but when endeavors like this are successful it could open the door to others. After all, it was the success of the 1997 Star Wars releases that led to Rhino's expanded Superman in the first place.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2019 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I've held out on buying version of the scores once I discovered FSM and it hung around, and then other labels popped up. Now I am waiting patiently for the be-all end-all deluxe editions.

 
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