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 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   calmblueocean81   (Member)

How does everyone here normally incorporate the "bonus" tracks into their ripped albums?

When there were only a handful of bonus tracks, I would tag them on at the end of the album, as per the CDs presentation. But then for other scores, where the bonus material was significant and lengthy, I would sometimes create a separate "Bonus Tracks" album. However I've realised I'm not entirely consistent with how I apply this thought process.

This came to mind again recently when I was ripping the latest Superman from Lalaland, as I have multiple versions of the score (so many that I was forced to go back and re-name the rest). I am currently going with Film Score, Original Album, Expanded and "RSNO" (for the re-recording). In this case I just added the bonus tracks on to the end of the film score.

I ran into a similar issue when ripping the 3 disc Star Trek Motion Picture collection, as the bonus tracks comprised over an hour and a half of extra material, and I didn't want to just stick on at the end of the Film Score presentation.

To be clear, I'm not complaining about bonus tracks or the various re-issues. I am always glad of any extra music thats gifted to us. Just curious how everyone else here approaches this.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Depends on the score. Sometimes I’ll go back and add the bonus tracks to the body of the score.

I did that with Die Hard 3. I put “somebody had fun” and “escape” in their chronological film appearances.


Also did this with the shed scene from Commando which was buried in the bonus section.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

I tend to keep an entire set together as an album in the same order as on the original disc / discs.

Then I make a playlist that just has the Main Score or the Original Album or whatnot.

It worked a lot better and I did it more frequently when I could nest playlists in iTunes. But there are still scores where it's important enough to me.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I go to Delaware.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

It all depends on what they do for the listening experience. If they're redundant "Take 12", etc., or if they detract from my pleasure, I rarely will include them. I'm the same way about "Source Music" in that I rarely include it, i.e., "We May Never Love Like This Again" (The Towering Inferno) - yes it was in the film, but for me it's a distraction so I don't include it. I know, I'm weird.
However, some bonus tracks I really enjoy - "End Title", Track 24 Black Sunday (FSM) - it's my favorite track even though it wasn't used. My main problem with it is I think it makes an excellent opening track as well so I'm kinda torn as to where to place it on the list.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   hollywoodvegas   (Member)

For the most part I keep the sets in their normal organization that is presented by the composer/label. The only thing I do is segregate the parts. I will put the score in one section, the bonus tracks in another, and if the original soundtrack production is included I make a section for that as well.

When the labels, like Intrada, give us alternate covers I will use one for the score and the other for the bonus material, and then the original soundtrack cover for that portion. So one release could end up being 3 digital titles in my library.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

If there's an album it's three playlists: Film Score, Album Soundtrack, Extras.

If there's no album it's just two playlists: Title and Title (Extras).

Rarely do I leave something off that was on the CD, and it's even more rare that I substitute an alternate or other extra for what was used in the film.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   calmblueocean81   (Member)

When the labels, like Intrada, give us alternate covers I will use one for the score and the other for the bonus material, and then the original soundtrack cover for that portion.

I like this idea, never occurred to me!

I think my problem is just my own OCD when it comes to not treating all bonus tracks exactly the same way. I used to use a very rough rule of thumb that if the bonus tracks came to more than half an hour of content, they would get their own "bonus track" album, but I don't even stick to that rule in all cases.

And thanks to all for the replies, much appreciated.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 4:17 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I rip all the tracks, & then as I listen to it over the years I delete the tracks that don't do it for me, & I end up with a tight album where I love every track.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

The way I do things is once I've ripped a release, I assemble the core score tracks in film order, and in many cases, place source cues in the location represented in the film.

That is the "main album", so to speak.

If the OST is included, I create an "Original Soundtrack" list with it's contents, and find the original album art for that.

For bonus tracks (such as alternates), I place them in their own album (or albums, ala Star Trek TMP Alternate Early Score) with alternate album art if available and applicable.

This then allows me to either listen to the score, the album, or the alternates as desired.

I have a whole scheme of sorts for my Star Trek material, organising by show, season and episode number, using the separate alternates in their own "albums".

Main and End Titles are separated into separate albums, by introductory season, or simply by show as appropriate.

So um, yes, it's quite the ritual getting things ripped and tagged as an archive. smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2019 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

The way I do things is once I've ripped a release, I assemble the core score tracks in film order, and in many cases, place source cues in the location represented in the film.

That is the "main album", so to speak.

If the OST is included, I create an "Original Soundtrack" list with it's contents, and find the original album art for that.

For bonus tracks (such as alternates), I place them in their own album (or albums, ala Star Trek TMP Alternate Early Score) with alternate album art if available and applicable.

This then allows me to either listen to the score, the album, or the alternates as desired.

I have a whole scheme of sorts for my Star Trek material, organising by show, season and episode number, using the separate alternates in their own "albums".

Main and End Titles are separated into separate albums, by introductory season, or simply by show as appropriate.

So um, yes, it's quite the ritual getting things ripped and tagged as an archive. smile


I shouldn't be surprised, but it sounds like you spend as much time grooming your Star Trek collection as I do.

On my Plex server I have "Star Trek" as its own entirely separate music library!

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2019 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   Glenn Butler   (Member)

On my Plex server I have "Star Trek" as its own entirely separate music library!

My main mp3 archive is organized by composer and album (with an admittedly messy catch-all Multiple Composers section), but I copied all of the Star Trek scores to a separate directory and made a separate archive where they're broken up into shows and episodes. It really helps to have episodes represented in multiple releases collected together, and it's always satisfying when another LLL collection comes out and I can see the episode lists grow.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2019 - 11:36 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

I certainly had to think differently with Star Trek TOS. I ended up creating a playlist for every full and partial episode score; the full scores include their respective main and end titles, the partial scores do not (which I find satisfying considering their creation and usage in the series). Additionally each season has two dedicated playlists, one for extras and one for library music.

Now that I'm thinking about it, doing the album art was much more of a chore. Each episode is tagged with an image from their respective show and primary colored by season, with alternate images for extras or corresponding library music. I toyed with the idea of mixing colors and images for rerecorded library tracks (i.e. Season 1 image with Season 2 color) but that looked too weird. The extras and library music are tagged with the matte paintings: the lithium facility from Where No Man Has Gone Before for Season 1, the beam-down location from A Taste of Armageddon for Season 2, and Flint's planet from Requiem for Methuselah for Season 3.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2019 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

When ripping to itunes firstly if the OST is also presented, then that goes as it’s own album.
Otherwise the main score presentation goes as “disc 1” and the extras go as “disc 2”. If there are only 1 or 2 bonus tracks I usually just keep them all as one.
I also use Intrada’s cover B for bonus tracks, or I just do tracks 1,3,5 have cover a, tracks 2,4,6 have cover b.
Depends really on the title, how many bonus tracks there are, whether they are score or source, what I feel like when I do them. So no one rule.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2019 - 3:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yes, as others have said, it depends entirely on the nature of the bonus tracks.

I tend to omit them from my iTunes import if they're alternate versions or the like. If they're fun 'source cues', I might keep them.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2019 - 4:01 AM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

My personal listening preference are expanded/complete versions of scores, so it's extremely rare that I'll rip the OST if it's included. Therefore, I'll create an MP3 album for the expansion. At present, the only OST or OST-like albums I have are James Horner's original assembly for Apollo 13 (Intrada Disc 2), Danny Elfman's Dick Tracy, and the unreleased score album for David Arnold's Godzilla (Disc 3 of the BSX "Ultimate Edition")

If there are only a few bonus tracks, then I'll add them to the end of the album along with any concert suites (e.g. "Ode to Harrison" and "Ode to Vengeance" from Star Trek: Into Darkness, "Original End Credits" taken from the Carolco demo cassette for Rambo: First Blood Part II

If there is a great deal of additional tracks (specifically alternates), I'll create a second album: "MOVIE TITLE: THE ALTERNATE SCORE" (e.g. Bram Stoker's Dracula, Star Trek: The Motion Picture) or "MOVIE TITLE: ALTERNATE AND ARCHIVAL MUSIC" (e.g. all the bonus tracks from the entire Harry Potter: The John Williams Collection, the new edition of Superman, and La-La's two David Arnold 007 expansions)

Admittedly, part of the reason I create these additional albums is because I enjoy creating custom album art, so it gives me an excuse (although there are numerous occasions where I'll create my own cover art for the main expansions too).

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2019 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I don't like the term "Bonus" tracks. Sounds like what you'd expect to see in a supermarket, describing an extra 20% of washing-up liquid or ketchup in a bottle. In my custom track lists, I prefer to list any bonus tracks under the heading "Supplementary Tracks".

Talking of bonus tracks... I'm currently trying to find out who should be credited with the instrumental version of "Your Kiss" in Intrada's To Catch a Thief. The credits for the song/vocal version are George Auld, Pat Auld and George Cates, but that's the credit for the song, with lyrics. I want the specific credit for just the instrumental track, without the lyricist (whichever that might be). Can't find any info online.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2019 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

It depends on the score as many have said. For LLL's Star Trek:MTP there's enough alt/bonus tracks to make a separate playlist. Sometimes I'll incorporate bonus tracks into the main program if their good and don't distract. Other times I combine bonus tracks into a long suite and make it the last track in the playlist.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2019 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

If there are a lot, an album's worth, I make them their own separate album.

If there are only a few, I make the film score “disc 1” and the bonus tracks “disc 2.”

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2019 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   Trent B   (Member)

Personally I don't include bonus or alternate tracks for my scores on my phone. To me a lot of them aren't that interesting and not worth keeping for the playlist. I really don't listen to the bonus or alternate tracks that much. That's just me though.

 
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