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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4      General Discussion: Underrated composer/director relationships     1 2 3    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 4:07 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) OK, so here's the issue: I'm the guest editor of an upcoming issue of a Norwegian film magazine, and the topic is composer/director relationships. I've written a long article on the Altman/Williams collab myself, and have many other great contributors as well. I wanted to do a shorter article/list on top 10 underrated collaborations -- meaning they shouldn't be the most famous collabs (so no Williams/Spielberg, Herrmann/Hitchcock etc.), and they should have done at least 5 films together. I already have a long list myself, but I wanted your input as well, in case I've overlooked someone. Female composers and/or directors are especially wanted.    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 4:44 AM     By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member) Of course, might help if you post your list just so we know what you have already included. :-) I guess among the more famfous and obvious ones (so not the ones you're looking for) that are already on the list would be Jarre/Lean, Jerry Goldsmith/Michael Crichton (or Franklin J. Schaffner... or Joe Dante), or Wojchiech Kilar/Krzysztof Kieslowski and (in Poland). Kilar and Polanski are famous too, though they only did four not five films together. Morricone/Leone... I guess the most famous of all. You've probably heard of it. Same with Silvestri/Zemeckis. :-) But how famous are Jerry Fielding/Michael Winner? Famous on these boards, but in the open world? Ernest Gold/Stanley Kramer? It is difficult for me to determine when one is too "famous" or too obscure to be included, but Wikipedia has a nice list that may be a good starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_director_and_composer_collaborations    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 4:49 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Thanks, Nicolai! This is not aimed at film score specialists like us, but rather film-interested subscribers that have -- at best -- a passing knowledge in film music. Yup, I've already consulted that Wikipedia list. It's very meager on female composers/directors, though. So I desperately need tips there. These are on my shortlist so far (copy/pasted from my working document right now). Some actually have less than 5 films together, so I broke my own rule, but this is just for brainstorming reference: A.R. Rahman og Mani Ratnam/S. Shankar Alan Silvestri og Robert Zemeckis Basil Poledouris og Paul Verhoeven/John Milius Cliff Martinez og Steven Soderbergh/Nicholas Winding Refn Danny Elfman og Gus van Sant David Arnold og Roland Emmerich Elliot Goldenthal og Julie Taymour Elmer Bernstein og.... Ennio Morricone og.... Erich Wolfgang Korngold og.... Franz Waxman og Delmer Daves/Billy Wilder George Fenton og Ken Loach/Stephen Frears Georges Delerue og Francois Truffaut/Philippe de Broca Hans Zimmer og Henry Mancini og Blake Edwards James Horner og Ron Howard James Newton Howard og Kevin Reynolds Jerry Goldsmith og Joe Dante/Michael Chrichton/Schaffner Johan Söderqvist og Susanne Bier Marco Beltrami og Ole Bornedal?? Miklos Rozsa Mychael Danna og Atom Egoyan/Ang Lee Richard Robbins og Merchant/Ivory Stefan Nilsson og…. Zbigniew Preisner og Krzystow Kieslowski Luc Besson og Eric Serra Kenneth Brannagh og Patrick Doyle Antonioni og Fusco Aronofsky og Mansell Thomas Newman og Jon Avnet Frank Capra og Dimitri Tiomkin Michael Curtiz og Max Steiner Jacques Demy og Michel Legrand Henry King og Alfred Newman Kenji Mizoguchi og Fumio Hayasaka Sam Peckinpah og Jerry Fielding/Michael Winner De Sica/Cicognini Tarkovsky/Artemiev Anne Dudley/Verhoeven    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 5:01 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) What would be amazing is if there was a female/female collaboration that goes over several films (less than 5 is OK in this case). But male/female is OK too. Some off the top of my head are Dudley/Verhoeven, Carlos/Kubrick, Portman/Hallström. Or Söderqvist/Bier. Did any of these have any longstanding relationships: Shirley Walker? Deborah Lurie? Lisa Gerrard (Michael Mann sorta counts, I guess)? Angela Morley? Yoko Kanno? Jane Antonia Cornish? Debbie Wiseman? Others?    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 5:06 AM     By:   Brundlefly   (Member) David Cronenberg & Howard Shore    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 5:37 AM     By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member) David Cronenberg & Howard Shore They qualify probably as more of the famous examples, not so much as one less known and underrated.    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 5:42 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) I think it's quite a good example, well within the parameters here (remember, this is not for film music nerds like us). Not a personal favourite, but I know at least one critic (in my enquete) is mentioning that particular couple.    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 6:07 AM     By:   edern   (Member) John Badham/Arthur B. Rubinstein ? (Badham alos worked with Zimmer on 3 movies) Shirley Walker? It's a kind of tricky case, but Shirley Walker had a relationship with regular collaborators Glen Morgan and James Wong. If you add every thing they worked on together you get : Space: Above & Beyond, Final Destination, Final Destination 3 and the Willard and Black Christmas remakes.    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 7:16 AM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) Alan J Pakula worked with many fine composers (David Shire, Marvin Hamlisch, John Williams) and ended his career with a James Horner double, but his films with Michael Small* yielded some brilliant and innovative (and underrated) scores. *9, I think    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 7:38 AM     By:   John McMasters   (Member) Edmund Crispin (Bruce Montgomery) wrote absolutely brilliant comedy scores for many British comedies directed by Gerald Thomas, including 6 of the "Carry On" films, and his contributions to those films often go unnoticed. He also wrote several dramatic scores for the English female director Muriel Box. Frank DeVol and Robert Aldrich.    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 7:47 AM     By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member) Thor, it wouldn't be worth covering, but maybe just mentioning in context with Williams/Spielberg: Williams and Lucas. They have four films with Lucas as director, with his very strong hand in Empire, Jedi and Raiders all but making up for a lost 5th. Both the weight and the cross-pollination with Spielberg may make that footnote get lost on many.    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 7:59 AM     By:   villagardens553   (Member) Has anybody mentioned Stanley Myers and Peter Walker?    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 8:35 AM     By:   John McMasters   (Member) Les Baxter: his collaborations with Roger Corman and William Asher should earn him a place on any list. The "beach party" and "Poe" cycles owe him a huge huge huge huge huge debt. Ronald Stein and Roger Corman    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 9:10 AM     By:   SchiffyM   (Member) How about Thomas Newman and Sam Mendes?    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 9:14 AM     By:   First Breath   (Member) Bobby Roth - Tangerine Dream & Chris Franke John Stockwell - Paul Haslinger Craig R. Baxley - Gary Chang Donald P. Borchers (producer) - Jonathan Elias    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 10:16 AM     By:   dtw   (Member) Well, Eleni Karaindrou is in that Wikipedia list - she's done quite a few film scores with Theo Angelopoulos.    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 10:19 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Well, Eleni Karaindrou is in that Wikipedia list - she's done quite a few film scores with Theo Angelopoulos. Yeah, I know. Angelopoulos I know fairly well, but not Karaindrou. Guess research is in order.    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 10:58 AM     By:   bagby   (Member) Thanks, Nicolai! This is not aimed at film score specialists like us, but rather film-interested subscribers that have -- at best -- a passing knowledge in film music. Yup, I've already consulted that Wikipedia list. It's very meager on female composers/directors, though. So I desperately need tips there. These are on my shortlist so far (copy/pasted from my working document right now). Some actually have less than 5 films together, so I broke my own rule, but this is just for brainstorming reference: Elmer Bernstein og....John Sturges Erich Wolfgang Korngold og....Michael Curtiz    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 11:47 AM     By:   Rozsaphile   (Member) Erich Wolfgang Korngold og....Michael Curtiz In the studio era there was little connection between directors and composers. The director was usually off on another shoot while producer and music director and composer devised the musical approach. Same would apply to "Newman-King" and many others. Rozsa-Wilder and Herrmann-Hitchcock were exceptions to the rule.    Posted:   Mar 19, 2019 - 12:06 PM     By:   Thor   (Member) Rozsa-Wilder and Herrmann-Hitchcock were exceptions to the rule. Do you know if the same applied to Waxman/Delmer Daves or Waxman/Wilder? Those (particularly the first) are maybe top contenders for my Golden Age pair.     General Discussion: Underrated composer/director relationships    < 1 2 3  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3 4   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4

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