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 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Whenever I realize that a film that is available to view on TCM but isn't available to me (my cable provider apparently values TCM as a premium station), I take on my "I'll get you my pretty and your little dog too" personna and find it elsewhere. Well, I found it on Amazon Prime for 2.00 and what a bargain.

With my love for WW2 films and scores, I cannot believe that I had never seen this film before. I may have viewed it many years ago but who knows. It tells the story of the Doolittle raid and is based on a book by Capt. Ted Lawson, a Doolittle pilot.

For a film made in 1944 in the midst of a raging war, the depth and quality of this film is amazing. This is no surprise with the direction of Mervyn LeRoy, production of Sam Zimbalist and writing of Dalton Trumbo. The cast is equally deep and effective with Van Johnson, Spencer Tracy, Don DeFore, Robert Mitchum, Robert Walker and Paul Langston.
According to everything I've read, the historical accuracy is spot on and the actual pilots felt it honored their mission.

The Stothart score is a mixture of his own score interspersed with patriotic and popular songs of the time. It fit the film very well. I may sound like an amateur film critic but my point is - if you haven't viewed this film, do so. It's so worth it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

I couldn’t agree more. This is a gem in every way though the romance is a bit corny by today’s standard. And the visual effects which won the Academy Award that year are still impressive.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)


I agree that the romance was a bit corny but after speaking to my mother-in law about her romance with her husband who served and other relatives who had WW2 love stories, the passion and melancholy was heightened due to the circumstances of the time.

I'm glad you referenced the visual effects robert. They were extremely impressive for the times. The 1945 Oscar was well deserved.

Pleased to have company in admiring this film.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Glad you posted about this movie. After reading your post, I realized that I had NOT seen this film. I had it mixed up with Bridges At Toko-Ri which is a good movie but with a real bummer ending.

I have TCM and will look for this movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   lacoq   (Member)

Definitely one of my favorite WWII movies. Quite an impressive feat of special effects. The whole bombing raid scene is a tour de force....very dramatic, made more so with the ABSENCE of music and today's cgi couldn’t top the effects they accomplished !!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Hey, last night I finished watching The Longest Day in entirety for 1st time (previously seen over decades in cumulative snippets) and was thinking of TSOT and its Destination Tokyo companion, both of which I have seen and enjoyed. Van Johnson was always good in the WW2 flicks.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

This was the first (and only) colorized movie I ever saw. The effect wasn't as bad as I expected. The hues weren't exactly real, but their very unnatural quality had the effect of suggesting the period -- like faded color magazines of the era. (Though certainly not like the glorious Technicolor of the movie era.) I suppose I dialed down the TV color after a while, since I now recall the film in B&W.

Yes, a good film -- much better than the hasty retelling in PEARL HARBOR.

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Most of the MGM pics of that era are horrible a.g A GUY NAMED JOE..
but this one is a.goodie!

Bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 7:34 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

When I think MGM of the period I think first of The Human Comedy (another V. Johnsoner).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

When I think MGM of the period I think first of The Human Comedy (another V. Johnsoner).

Yes, my two favorites of WW2 from MGM. THE HUMAN COMEDY is so beautifully done....heartbreaking. I wish Herbert Stothart's score to THE HUMAN COMEDY survived somewhere and some label which appreciates good music being released did something about it. Nice to see two threads today dealing with films of the 40's.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 9:29 PM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

I had to chime in my opinion when I saw this thread. TSOT is one of my favorite war films because of the accuracy and the story telling. How could you go wrong I mean was this movie made a few years after the start of WW2 or very close to it? So all the details were still fresh from the authors mind and I could also agree the scenes over Tokyo was some of the best I watched. Modern movies take note. This is how to make a classic. I am still waiting for a decent price for a dvd copy.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 9:36 PM   
 By:   BBoulle   (Member)

My favorite WWII movie is Battleground (1949). Can't say I remember much of Lennie Hayton's (married for years to Lena Horne) score, but if you don't love the ending, you don't love WWII movie music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDQvYE8sbc8

 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2019 - 10:30 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

My favorite WWII movie is Battleground (1949). Can't say I remember much of Lennie Hayton's (married for years to Lena Horne) score, but if you don't love the ending, you don't love WWII movie music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDQvYE8sbc8


I. Recently ordered this from the library but I failed to pick it up in time.
Hafta reorder it!

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2019 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

When I think MGM of the period I think first of The Human Comedy (another V. Johnsoner).

Howard, this is another one I have never seen and am really looking forward to. I found the original trailer on YouTube. Gotta love love YouTube and Amazon Prime - already lined it up for viewing tonight.

Thanks so much for mentioning this one Howard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36_8a1E3mYs

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2019 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Oh, a pleasure! After you're finished seeing it go here (or go here now but beware of spoilers)--

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=32545&forumID=7&archive=1

And Battleground is indeed a keeper.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2019 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

The ending is perfect, but I think it would have worked as well or better without the orchestral contribution. Very rarely did Hollywood dare to let a movie end in silence. THE NUN'S STORY is the great exception.

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2019 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

It's been a loooooong time since I've seen this one. I basically remember Spencer Tracy and Van Johnson. B-25's. Jungle. I do remember that I liked it.

Fascinating that it was made before the end of the war.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2019 - 6:15 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

By coincidence, the last of the Doolittle aviators has just passed away, aged 103:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/09/obituaries/richard-cole-dead.html

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2019 - 6:30 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

By coincidence, the last of the Doolittle aviators has just passed away, aged 103:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/09/obituaries/richard-cole-dead.html


will watch the film in his honor. My late husband and I met several of the Raiders in the late 1990s and we were thrilled.

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2019 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Thanks for bringing this one up! I try to catch it whenever it's on TCM. It is somewhat corny in some facets, but it has some subtleties that seemed rare for a film of its day. And I find its treatment of Asians particularly gratifying, again, especially for a film of its day and considering how they were often portrayed in such films.
Particularly touching for me was the scene when the older Chinese gentleman in gratitude gives pairs of the cotton-soled shoes to the Raiders. When he his gives Lawson his pair, the man realizes that Lawson has only one foot and he feels so ashamed, fearful that he’s insulted Lawson. Then Lawson treats him gently and thanks him and the old man smiles and bows, geez, it gets me every time.

 
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