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 Posted:   Apr 12, 2019 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

The theatrical or the special edition? ALIENS is one of my all time favorite films, I love it! I really like the special edition scenes, but they slow down the pace. So it's a toss up for me, what about you guys?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2019 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Both are brilliant -- and both have their advantages and disadvantages -- but I prefer the special edition.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2019 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Both are brilliant -- and both have their advantages and disadvantages -- but I prefer the special edition.

Hi Thor! Do you own the ALIEN ANTHOLOGY set? It has 2 bonus discs with supplements for each film. And Horner's score is isolated on the ALIENS disc. It's a great set. BTW, we seem to like the same films which is cool my friend!smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2019 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I have the 9-DVD box from years ago. I haven't upgraded to Blu-ray yet.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2019 - 4:57 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Directors cut was unnecessary like the Star Wars Special Editions. It added nothing important to the story, the scenes with the parents were just awful and felt like it came from another director. The auto-machine gun sequence was superfluous. I don't remember what else was in the directors cut but these things are left on the cutting room floor for a reason. Frankly I've never seen a directors cut that merited the revisit. Edit: Other than Superman II!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2019 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Directors cut was unnecessary like the Star Wars Special Editions. It added nothing important to the story, the scenes with the parents were just awful and felt like it came from another director. The auto-machine gun sequence was superfluous. I don't remember what else was in the directors cut but these things are left on the cutting room floor for a reason. Frankly I've never seen a directors cut that merited the revisit. Edit: Other than Superman II!

Hi solium! The scene where Ripley finds out about the death of her daughter adds more weight to the scenes with Ripley and Newt.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2019 - 4:40 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Hi, henry! I like both versions, but slightly prefer the Special Edition. You're right about the audience knowing about Ripley having a daughter added more weight to the Ripley/Newt relationship.

The only thing is, I wish they had also added the scene of Ripley encountering Paul Reiser's character after she goes back for Newt, only to find him cocooned. She gives him a grenade so he can kill himself. Don't know why everything else was added back in, but that wasn't...

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2019 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Disagree about adding in the daughters death. Ripley's "motherly" instincts took over, we didn't need a tragic back story and I think it actually weakens her character as acting selfless in protecting Newt.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2019 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Theatrical. The add ons deliver little extra and sometimes just distract.

D.S.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2019 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

The theatrical version is more briskly paced and has the fat trimmed out. It's the better of the two.

Now, if you want to talk about The Abyss, I much prefer the expanded version of that film.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2019 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

My main attraction to the extended cut is that I am obsessed with the ALIEN universe, so I want as much footage as possible to revel in. I also love each of the added scenes individually. But there's no doubt that the theatrical cut has better tempo and flow. But if I play ALIENS these days (which I tend to do at least once every year), I always play the extended cut.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2019 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Short scores but c and c movies, Thor? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2019 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Indeed. There is no media adaptation taking place.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2019 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Directors cut was unnecessary like the Star Wars Special Editions. It added nothing important to the story, the scenes with the parents were just awful and felt like it came from another director. The auto-machine gun sequence was superfluous. I don't remember what else was in the directors cut but these things are left on the cutting room floor for a reason. Frankly I've never seen a directors cut that merited the revisit. Edit: Other than Superman II!

You must not have seen the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven, which is a VASTLY better movie than the theatrical release.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2019 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Directors cut was unnecessary like the Star Wars Special Editions. It added nothing important to the story, the scenes with the parents were just awful and felt like it came from another director. The auto-machine gun sequence was superfluous. I don't remember what else was in the directors cut but these things are left on the cutting room floor for a reason. Frankly I've never seen a directors cut that merited the revisit. Edit: Other than Superman II!

You must not have seen the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven, which is a VASTLY better movie than the theatrical release.


Nope haven't seen any version of Kingdom of Heaven. The only way I see a directors cut being better is if studio interference ruined what would've otherwise been a solid movie. Which you seem to be implying here.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2019 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Directors cut was unnecessary like the Star Wars Special Editions. It added nothing important to the story, the scenes with the parents were just awful and felt like it came from another director. The auto-machine gun sequence was superfluous. I don't remember what else was in the directors cut but these things are left on the cutting room floor for a reason. Frankly I've never seen a directors cut that merited the revisit. Edit: Other than Superman II!

You must not have seen the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven, which is a VASTLY better movie than the theatrical release.


Nope haven't seen any version of Kingdom of Heaven. The only way I see a directors cut being better is if studio interference ruined what would've otherwise been a solid movie. Which you seem to be implying here.


That's pretty accurate here, yes. I'd recommend seeking out the Director's Cut sometime. Gets the full roadshow treatment to boot.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2019 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The director's cut of KINGDOM OF HEAVEN is spectacular. It ups the quality of that film not only one, but two leagues.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2019 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

Regarding 'Aliens', I prefer the theatrical version mostly, but find the extra scenes in the extended edition interesting. I think the director's cut of 'Alien 3' is better than the original.

As for extended or director cuts generally, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. I think 'Dances With Wolves' special edition works well, as does the Final Cut of 'Blade Runner'. I've only see the Bluray extended cut of the 'The Martian', and I thought that worked well.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2019 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I've watched the extended cut a few times over the decades, but the theatrical version works much better for me. As a couple of others said, in part it's because the Ripley backstory and the early scene with Newt weaken the dramatic effectiveness of simply being in the moment with those characters without knowing anything more.

The theatrical is a tighter version of a tight (and thin) story. A big part of the success of Aliens in the theater in 1986 was its pacing - such an interestingly different film for a sequel compared to the slow pace of Alien. It made the sequel much more powerful than the often pokier pace of the extended version.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2019 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

ALIEN I clearly prefer the original theatrical cut (which is also the actual "director's cut") by Ridley Scott, whereas for ALIENS, I actually prefer the special edition cut, but just by a small margin.

 
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