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 Posted:   Apr 22, 2019 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)



Space X which was supposed to start flying astronauts into space this year just blew up one of their capsules in an abort test. This capsule did successfully fly unmanned into space, dock with the ISS and parachuted back into the ocean. So I’ll give them that.

They also lost a heavy rocket booster to the ocean when it tipped over the barge in heavy seas. Two other side boosters successfully landed though. So a mixed bag of success's and failures.

The other private company (name escapes me) supposedly working towards taxing astronauts to ISS are also behind schedule and NASA itself is waaaaaay behind schedule with its own launch system which is supposed to replace the Space Shuttle program.

Note: Reminder the cool icon is to represent science news. Not to signify this news is "cool".

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2019 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

LOL, since when did the "cool" smiley (whatever it means) come to mean "science news."
Reminder: the "winkie" smiley means my car has a flat tire and I need help changing it. wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2019 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

LOL, since when did the "cool" smiley (whatever it means) come to mean "science news."
Reminder: the "winkie" smiley means my car has a flat tire and I need help changing it. wink


Because I think science is cool. Nothing funny about my choice of icons.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2019 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

So you think the rocket problem is not cool even though your title indicates it's "cool"? Weird - or maybe I should say 'Cool' even though it's not "cool." How about "sick." Or is it like that song "Smiling Faces sometimes tell lies."

 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2019 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Anyways... roll eyes

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2019 - 1:54 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Must be slightly off-putting for potential astronauts to say the least.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2019 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Must be slightly off-putting for potential astronauts to say the least.

To say the least. eek

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2019 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   Molly_Polly   (Member)

“The main reason we are testing is the need to get a guarantee that our systems meet the most stringent security requirements, and to identify anomalies like this. NASA and Space X are studying an anomaly that occurred today during a static fire test at a site in Florida. We will study, make appropriate improvements and safely move under the Private Manned Spaceships Program.”

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2019 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   Molly_Polly   (Member)

Now SpaceX engineers, having received science help from NASA, work in close cooperation to investigate what has happened (More information here https://answershark.com/science.html). In SpaceX, following the fire tests, we planned to conduct testing in flight. It consisted of launching an emergency rescue system about a minute after the launch of the Falcon 9 launch vehicle. It is necessary to get NASA approval for placing astronauts on a spacecraft. He was going to spend in June, but now it is postponed indefinitely.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2019 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Scary to have a cretin like Musk trying to push things forwards so fast, playing with people's lives.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2019 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Scary to have a cretin like Musk trying to push things forwards so fast, playing with people's lives.

I thought I was the only one that felt that way. Musck has gotten a total pass and people are building him up as the Walt Disney of the space industry. I don't know if he's playing with peoples lives but moving some aspects of the space industry into the hands of private industry was something I've been against from the beginning. Maximizing profits, cutting corners, and the pressure to perform or lose contracts will factor into risky business. Of course NASA itself has been guilty of that as well, though that was sloppiness brought on by political pressure. But it's going to be of greater concern when a private company must make a profit.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2019 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

I thought I was the only one that felt that way. Musck has gotten a total pass and people are building him up as the Walt Disney of the space industry. I don't know if he's playing with peoples lives but moving some aspects of the space industry into the hands of private industry was something I've been against from the beginning. Maximizing profits, cutting corners, and the pressure to perform or lose contracts will factor into risky business. Of course NASA itself has been guilty of that as well, though that was sloppiness brought on by political pressure. But it's going to be of greater concern when a private company must make a profit.

Some people seem to need a hero, and the cult of personality provides what they need. We saw it with Steve Jobs.

NASA learned the hard way. I hope no one in SpaceX has to pay that kind of price for Musk's education.

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2019 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Some people seem to need a hero, and the cult of personality provides what they need. We saw it with Steve Jobs.

People naturally have heroes in music, film, politics, sports, etc. and even among family and friends. It's not a fault to admire other people. The cult of personality is a different thing, maybe an unhealthy admiration.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2019 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Some people seem to need a hero, and the cult of personality provides what they need. We saw it with Steve Jobs.

People naturally have heroes in music, film, politics, sports, etc. and even among family and friends. It's not a fault to admire other people. The cult of personality is a different thing, maybe an unhealthy admiration.


They say "never meet your heroes" and they're probably right. Our heroes are extensions of ourselves - they are the ones that confirm or champion a particular belief or understanding we have. To expect them to excel on all levels, not just the particular thing we appreciate, is a fallacy. To validate hero worship we have to accept human fallibility. I'll give a couple of examples of my "heroes":

Isaac Newton (physicist) - numerology woo-tard
Kate Bush (musician) - woo-tard
James Clerk Maxwell (physicist) - devoutly religious
Vladimir Nabokov (writer) - philosophically confused and confusing
Alfred Hitchcock (director) - bully, misogynist
Eric Gill (typeface artist) - incestuous paedophile rapist
Hieronymus Bosch (painter) - religious fundamentalist

You have to be very selective in the traits you admire in other people. Outside of fiction there is no ideal hero.

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2019 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

There's a big difference between having heroes and hero-worship, where the latter is like falling in-love. Usually as you get older, you don't expect anything beyond what you can see about people you've never even met. It's just another lesson in life like finding out there's no Santa Claus, or Patrick Stewart isn't really Captain Picard.

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2019 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The problem is even @ssholes are talented.

 
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