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 Posted:   Jan 3, 2020 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   KeoNato   (Member)

My money’s on either 1917 due to the strength of the score in the movie and TROS due to some recognition of how he brought this whole saga to a close. The music for the Star Wars saga is a feat that’s never really going to be matched.

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2020 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Excellent suspense thriller rendered in humanist terms amidst a self-imposed cataclysm.

Good irony; good pathos.

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2020 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

John Williams should be up for the oscar...not because RISE is the best of 2019 but it's the conclusion of an outstanding serie and just like Jackson received his Best Picture for the really cheesy and mediocre RETURN OF THE KING as an appreciation for the whole series...John Williams should receive his as an honor of this incredible ouvre called Star Wars.
Here, here. They won't tho.


So we're just giving out consolation prices for the Oscars now. What a millennial thing to say.


You really think Return of the King deserved that Best Picture statue?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2020 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   KeoNato   (Member)

John Williams should be up for the oscar...not because RISE is the best of 2019 but it's the conclusion of an outstanding serie and just like Jackson received his Best Picture for the really cheesy and mediocre RETURN OF THE KING as an appreciation for the whole series...John Williams should receive his as an honor of this incredible ouvre called Star Wars.
Here, here. They won't tho.


So we're just giving out consolation prices for the Oscars now. What a millennial thing to say.


You really think Return of the King deserved that Best Picture statue?


When the hell did participation trophies become a millennial thing? Our parents forced that stuff on us. We didn’t ask for them.

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2020 - 9:40 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

John Williams should be up for the oscar...not because RISE is the best of 2019 but it's the conclusion of an outstanding serie and just like Jackson received his Best Picture for the really cheesy and mediocre RETURN OF THE KING as an appreciation for the whole series...John Williams should receive his as an honor of this incredible ouvre called Star Wars.
Here, here. They won't tho.


So we're just giving out consolation prices for the Oscars now. What a millennial thing to say.


You really think Return of the King deserved that Best Picture statue?


I don't recall what else was up that year. But ROTK was an excellent film even if it was a little long and a little "cheesy".

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2020 - 9:40 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

John Williams should be up for the oscar...not because RISE is the best of 2019 but it's the conclusion of an outstanding serie and just like Jackson received his Best Picture for the really cheesy and mediocre RETURN OF THE KING as an appreciation for the whole series...John Williams should receive his as an honor of this incredible ouvre called Star Wars.
Here, here. They won't tho.


So we're just giving out consolation prices for the Oscars now. What a millennial thing to say.


You really think Return of the King deserved that Best Picture statue?


When the hell did participation trophies become a millennial thing? Our parents forced that stuff on us. We didn’t ask for them.


We all pay for the sins of our elders. Its the circle of life.

 
 Posted:   Jan 4, 2020 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

John Williams should be up for the oscar...not because RISE is the best of 2019 but it's the conclusion of an outstanding serie and just like Jackson received his Best Picture for the really cheesy and mediocre RETURN OF THE KING as an appreciation for the whole series...John Williams should receive his as an honor of this incredible ouvre called Star Wars.
Here, here. They won't tho.


So we're just giving out consolation prices for the Oscars now. What a millennial thing to say.


You really think Return of the King deserved that Best Picture statue?


I don't recall what else was up that year. But ROTK was an excellent film even if it was a little long and a little "cheesy".


The other noms were:
Lost in Translation
Mystic River
Seabiscuit
Master and Commander

So...yeah I guess ROTK did deserve it that year lol

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2020 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Apart from a really daft 20-30 minute spell just after the halfway mark in this film (from the broken bridge/sniper to the rubble town night events), I thought this film was very good.
That sequence really took me out of the film (in it's silliness), but the rest felt like a WWI version of Apocalypto (a film it often kept reminding me of, especially some of the score moments).
Thankfully, it recovered itself for a strong ending, akin to the solid first hour.
I loved the two stand-out score sequences (Night Window and the Finale Elegy) and the piece near the end, that reminded me of Thin Red Line, was pretty cool too.
I won't be sad if this carries on winning major awards, as I think it's a very fine film (for the most part).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2020 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

finally saw the movie - a very solid piece.
Thomas newman has written one of his most efficient score to date - sadly it won't be enough at Oscars' time.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2020 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

I was a little underwhelmed by this at a Christmas-time screening, then saw it again in another theater yesterday.

Wow! What a difference! The first theater had cropped the sides of the image; there wasn't the resolution needed; the HDR was almost non-existent. The second theater (theater 11, Regal LA Live, DTLA) had the needed wide screen, for this movie is as wide as any I've seen since Ben-Hur.

I'd suspected, since learning this movie was captured with a new digi-mini (the Arri Alexa Mini LF (large format)), that I'd been missing something in the first theater. Was I ever!

Go see it in the best theater available to you!

joan hue, you might make a special trip to your nearest super high quality theater to see this one. A real humanist piece of stuff, made to the highest technical standards.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2020 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Hey Born, I did see this movie in a superb theater, and I liked it very much. I thought the two relatively unknown main actors were excellent. I liked the “one shot” method of filming. It made the audience an actual part of these soldiers’ complete journey. We were there right with them.

Amazing cinematography and superb locations, and of course the story had real heart. I kind of didn’t want to post this because most of the people in this thread loved Newman’s score, and I did not. I find his music cold which fit American Beauty but not some of the more serious films he scored since American Beauty. I wanted a score that provided more emotional gravitas to this movie, and his didn’t provide that for me. Turning up the volume very loud on rather non thematic random notes is not musical emotional architecture for me. But I’m glad others here liked the score.

It is a fine film and should be viewed in a new, excellent theater. It would be diminished on the small screen.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2020 - 5:37 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Hey Born, I did see this movie in a superb theater, and I liked it very much. I thought the two relatively unknown main actors were excellent. I liked the “one shot” method of filming. It made the audience an actual part of these soldiers’ complete journey. We were there right with them.

Amazing cinematography and superb locations, and of course the story had real heart. I kind of didn’t want to post this because most of the people in this thread loved Newman’s score, and I did not. I find his music cold which fit American Beauty but not some of the more serious films he scored since American Beauty. I wanted a score that provided more emotional gravitas to this movie, and his didn’t provide that for me. Turning up the volume very loud on rather non thematic random notes is not musical emotional architecture for me. But I’m glad others here liked the score.

It is a fine film and should be viewed in a new, excellent theater. It would be diminished on the small screen.


Hi Joan. Many of us have felt about Newman's work in the past several years and it continues to be strangely upsetting. Speaking of volume, one of the highlights of the score, that "Night Window" cue, is so quiet you can barely hear it for the first half, and even when it gets more pronounced it's still puzzlingly low in volume.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2020 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Hey Shaun,

Thanks for chiming in. I will check out that cue on YouTube.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2020 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

joan hue: Hey Born, I did see this movie in a superb theater, and I liked it very much. I thought the two relatively unknown main actors were excellent.

joan, did you notice that 1917's Lance Corporal Blake (the one who was killed after the rescue of the German pilot) was played by Game of Thrones actor Dean-Charles Chapman? Remember who he played? Like so many noble Game of Thrones characters, he met an ignominious end.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2020 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Yes, I thought the actor who played Blake looked familiar, so I looked him up on IMBD. He was younger and blonde in GOT and played the new king. Sadly he committed suicide. All the nasty queen's children were then gone. It is interesting to see actors from GOT play in other movies.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2020 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

joan hue: Yes, I thought the actor who played Blake looked familiar, so I looked him up on IMBD. He was younger and blonde in GOT and played the new king. Sadly he committed suicide. All the nasty queen's children were then gone. It is interesting to see actors from GOT play in other movies.

Yes joan, young King Tommen was by fate denied the counsel of his wise uncle Tyrion. Otherwise, we might have been spared much blood and death in the aftermath of Tommen's tragic suicide.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2022 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I only listen to 5 tracks on this CD.

1. 1917
5. The Night Window
8. A Bit Of Tin
17. Sixteen Hundred Men
19. Come Back To Us.

I like to think they total 19 minutes and 17 seconds wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2022 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

I only listen to 5 tracks on this CD.

1. 1917
5. The Night Window
8. A Bit Of Tin
17. Sixteen Hundred Men
19. Come Back To Us.

I like to think they total 19 minutes and 17 seconds wink


Funny you should bump this as I just revisited the score and the film today. Both SO great!
The tracks I listen to is (in other words, the tracks I added to my phone):

Blake and Schofield
Up The Down Trench (edited)
Gehenna (edited)
A Scrap of Ribbon (edited)
Milk (edited)
A Bit of Tinn
1917
Lockhouse (edited)
The Night Window
Les Arbres
Engländer
Sixteen Hundred Men
Come Back To Us

Time: 49 minutes

Which leaves six tracks out. I will revisit those soon to see if I enjoy them more now. Sometimes I need to "get to know" the score before I appreciate all the tracks. I often find lots of more after a revisit.
The reason they are in this order is because I arranged the tracks in film order.

I have actually listened to "Sixteen Hundred Men" 125 times! Lol!
And "The Night Window" 73 times.

My biggest complaint about this score is that the audio volume is so low! Some parts you can barely even hear with headphones on! After I raised the volume abit in iTunes (but not too much!) it sounded much better and it was easier to "connect" with it.

 
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