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 Posted:   May 18, 2019 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Paul Ettinger   (Member)

This is in reference to the KOCH 3-7365-2H1 TRIBUTE TO VICTOR YOUNG , released in 1996, conducted by Richard Kaufman.
The track listing indicates 18 tracks but there are really 19 tracks. Does anyone know the title of the untitled track? Track 12?

The actual track listing looks like this:

A Tribute to Victor Young (58:59)

Shane - 1953 (14:08)
1. Prelude 2:52
2. The Tree Stump 2:59
3. Rodeo Music 0:43
4. Wyoming Sketches 3:12
5. Cemetary Hill 4:22

For Whom The Bell Tolls - 1943 (8:39)
6. Suite 8:39

Samson and Delilah - 1949 (11:52)
7. Prelude 2:23
8. Miriam 1:28
9. Dance to Dagon 1:53
10. Hebrew Lament 0:57
11. Feather Dance 1:02
12. 0:47
13. The Fall of Samson 1:28
14. Exit Music 1:54

The Quiet Man - 1952 (8:39)
15. St. Patrick's Day 2:16
16. Kathleen 3:35
17. Innisfree 2:48

Tribute to Victor Young (8:50)
(arr. and orch. by Henry Mancini)
18. Suite: Golden Earrings - 1947
One Minute to Zero: When I Fall In Love - 1952
Sweet Sue (NST) - 1928
The Uninvited: Stella By Starlight - 1944
My Foolish Heart - 1949
Love Letters - 1945

Around the World in 80 Days - 1956 (6:50)
19. Epilogue 6:50

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2019 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Perhaps the marker (13) shouldn't be there? Maybe 12 & 13 (which are joined) should be listed as just one piece (The Fall of Samson)? I'm just guessing.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2019 - 6:25 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

My disc has 18 tracks....are there multiple pressings of this?

I don't see any reference to anything but 18 tracks anywhere. The sound samples I could find (on Allmusic.com) seem to correlate correctly, and it's not available for download/streaming it seems (I'm guessing it USED to be on eMusic.com but that site has been hugely gutted and doesn't have much any more)

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2019 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I can confirm that mine has 19 tracks and the additional one is apparently the one noted by the thread starter.

Bruce Eder, in his review of the CD also spotted an error of some kind (though I don't think he has identified it correctly):
"There does seem to be a labeling/indexing error in the CD at the point where the "Tribute to Victor Young," arranged by Henry Mancini, is supposed to appear, but this error of one digit is easily compensated for, although it is surprising that it could happen on so finely produced and mastered a CD as this."

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2019 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


I bought this CD when it came out and always enjoyed it. First time we got more music from SHANE other than the main theme. The performance could have been better but still a good CD. Back in the 1950's Victor Young was fairly well known, more so for the movie themes/songs he wrote.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2019 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

I have both the original 1996 pressing (Koch 3-7365-2H1) and a 2010 re-pressing (RKYOUNG-101) of the same CD.
The original Koch has 19 tracks (perhaps they corrected this in later repressings?); the RKYOUNG has 18 tracks.

The difference:
Koch apparently has a aberrant cue-start marker for the in-question 0:47 fragment. There is a pause, but the music belongs to the preceding cue.
RKYOUNG corrected this mistake and combines cues 11 & 12 from the original pressing into one cue.

Ron Burbella

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2019 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

I bought this waaaaaaaaaay before 2010. It was probably in 2001.
Koch 3-7365-2H1, Copyright 1996.

Checking it as I type this -- 18 tracks "Feather Dance" is the proper 1:49 length.

So unless there's something REALLY wonky with the disc and some drives reads as an extra track on some players (I'm using a PC's CD Drive -- I also checked, there's no indexing or whatever on that track...and no pause either) they must have done a "quiet" fixed second pressing.

*shrug*

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2019 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Paul Ettinger   (Member)

Thank you for the replies and help. I typed that very quickly before going away for a few days.
I surmised that it was part of 'The Fall of Sampson" as the theme is the same but one track is the full orchestra and then the other part is the same theme but on solo harp. But I have not seen the movie and wasn't sure.
The Cd inserts do say there are 18 tracks instead of 19 tracks with the timing for 'Feather Dance' combining tracks 11 and 12 for a time of 1:59. But the mystery track is stylistically different to the Feather Dance and stylistically similar to the Fall of Samson.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2019 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   roadshowfan   (Member)

Thank you for the replies and help. I typed that very quickly before going away for a few days.
I surmised that it was part of 'The Fall of Sampson" as the theme is the same but one track is the full orchestra and then the other part is the same theme but on solo harp. But I have not seen the movie and wasn't sure.
The Cd inserts do say there are 18 tracks instead of 19 tracks with the timing for 'Feather Dance' combining tracks 11 and 12 for a time of 1:59. But the mystery track is stylistically different to the Feather Dance and stylistically similar to the Fall of Samson.


I don't have this CD but it sounds like that short cue is the one titled "Delilah's harp" on Young's Decca album.

Incidentally, some time ago I split the two long suites on the Varese OST CD into separate tracks, but I could only safely make 11 instead of the 12 that seem to make up the album, so I'm guessing two tracks run into each other without a pause (Blind Samson and The Philistine March)?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 11:07 PM   
 By:   dave.yazbek   (Member)

I got to see this film on the big screen yesterday. So good. Would love a proper soundtrack release.

 
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