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 Posted:   Jun 12, 2019 - 1:45 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Here's Goldsmith's gorgeous End Credits:


Damn shame they didn't use that.

(blocked in some countries)

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2019 - 3:38 AM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

I'll never understand why they pay a composer to write music for their film and then just chuck it out the window in favor of a pop song. Rambo III is one of my favorite Goldsmith scores.

Thanks for the work you've done on these videos.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2019 - 6:30 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

That's so much better big grin

If you MUST replace the end titles music with a pop song...why not at least try for a good one? The attempt to turn the First Blood them into a Dan Hill hit single was unfortunate to say the least big grin , Frank Stallone's song for the second film...yikes...and the cover of "He Ain't Heavy" was just ridiculous. You'd think at some point someone would have the brains or balls to speak up and say " Guys, this song ain't gonna generate any extra promotional value or record sales, this was a bad idea, just put the score back in" . That's not speaking as a Goldsmith or film score fan, just using some actual good judgement .

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2019 - 7:01 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

What's hilarious is that for each Rambo film, JG wrote amazing end credits music only to have them replaced with songs. You'd think after the second film, he'd have just not bothered.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2019 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

I'll never understand why they pay a composer to write music for their film and then just chuck it out the window in favor of a pop song. Rambo III is one of my favorite Goldsmith scores.

I think it depends on the movie. As great as Bernstein's score is for Ghostbusters, I think the songs work better in the places where they substituted them for the score.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2019 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

What's hilarious is that for each Rambo film, JG wrote amazing end credits music only to have them replaced with songs. You'd think after the second film, he'd have just not bothered.

You'd think at that point, someone would tell Jerry, "Don't bother writing one because we're not going to use it and don't want to pay for recording it." Thank *goodness* that never happened though, because while his Rambo: First Blood Part II end credits are superb (even in poor sound), his Rambo III end credits are truly amazing and one of the greatest works of music to come out of the entire franchise!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2019 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

I'll never understand why they pay a composer to write music for their film and then just chuck it out the window in favor of a pop song. Rambo III is one of my favorite Goldsmith scores.

I think it depends on the movie. As great as Bernstein's score is for Ghostbusters, I think the songs work better in the places where they substituted them for the score.


I gotta agree, the songs were perfectly chosen and placed. I honestly didn't enjoy the score very much and sold off the Varese CD. One of the few times I actually prefer the Songtrack album.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2019 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

What's hilarious is that for each Rambo film, JG wrote amazing end credits music only to have them replaced with songs. You'd think after the second film, he'd have just not bothered.

You'd think at that point, someone would tell Jerry, "Don't bother writing one because we're not going to use it and don't want to pay for recording it." Thank *goodness* that never happened though, because while his Rambo: First Blood Part II end credits are superb (even in poor sound), his Rambo III end credits are truly amazing and one of the greatest works of music to come out of the entire franchise!

Yavar


Tyler actually uses the orchestral end credits from first blood at the end of Rambo.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2019 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

In my personal opinion, I think the un-used end Credits cue works wonderfully! It should have ben kept.



I gotta agree, the songs were perfectly chosen and placed. I honestly didn't enjoy the score very much and sold off the Varese CD. One of the few times I actually prefer the Songtrack album.

I agree, for the most part, though I think the end of "Get Her" would have worked in the film. I think The Mutant should do a score restore for all the un-used cues*. I remember seeing one or two on Youtube (I don't recall if it was him) years and years ago.


* = "We Got One!" won't work though; part of the scene has been edited out of the film (still not leaked yet) and you can see the bad crossfade edit in the film, so the cue won't fit.

 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2019 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

What's hilarious is that for each Rambo film, JG wrote amazing end credits music only to have them replaced with songs. You'd think after the second film, he'd have just not bothered.

You'd think at that point, someone would tell Jerry, "Don't bother writing one because we're not going to use it and don't want to pay for recording it." Thank *goodness* that never happened though, because while his Rambo: First Blood Part II end credits are superb (even in poor sound), his Rambo III end credits are truly amazing and one of the greatest works of music to come out of the entire franchise!

Yavar


Rambo III credits are wonderful. Although it is basically a reprise of the main themes used in the movie, except for the slower take on the action motiv and the powerful coda of the long road theme the rest is in fact almost identical to the performances of the tracks in the movie, what really shines for me in it are the bridges between the different themes.
It compares to another favorite that is the End Credits of Temple of Doom - I love the bridges on the transitions of the themes (a thing that is unfortunately missing on the pure cut and paste credits of most of the movies today).

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2019 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

While I don't quite go for the upbeat bit in the Rambo II credits, this is one where I just don't get how they didn't use this - it is bloody perfect! Makes the movie look good.

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2019 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Well, when I click on the video, I get:

Video unavailable
This video contains content from Studiocanal, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2019 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   BrendonKelly   (Member)

Well, when I click on the video, I get:

Video unavailable
This video contains content from Studiocanal, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.



So did I

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2019 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Well, when I click on the video, I get:

Video unavailable
This video contains content from Studiocanal, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.


Sorry about that. Youtube had less of a problem with me posting the end credits to part 2, but for some reason they are cracking down harder on this one. I believe it's only viewable in Europe.

I will eventually be investing in a Vimeo account which will let me post and embed all these videos without any issues (hopefully). Then I can include all my 20th Century Fox videos including Alien Nation and others that I can't currently post on Youtube.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2019 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   BrendonKelly   (Member)

Well, when I click on the video, I get:

Video unavailable
This video contains content from Studiocanal, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.


Sorry about that. Youtube had less of a problem with me posting the end credits to part 2, but for some reason they are cracking down harder on this one. I believe it's only viewable in Europe.

I will eventually be investing in a Vimeo account which will let me post and embed all these videos without any issues (hopefully). Then I can include all my 20th Century Fox videos including Alien Nation and others that I can't currently post on Youtube.


Thanks for the reply. I am in Europe....well for now anyway. God knows what we will be in after 31st October!!?

 
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