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Having recently seen the film again it seems that there is quite a bit more music in the score than is currently available on CD. It would be good to see this score released in its entirety.
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Reading the book now. Should I wait to see the film? I did like the album.
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Has Budd sent the ransom letter yet?
Couldn't resist.
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Having recently seen the film again it seems that there is quite a bit more music in the score than is currently available on CD. It would be good to see this score released in its entirety.
The end title musical composition written by Roy Budd and sung by Mary Hopkin is one of the most beautiful songs ever written for a motion picture.
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The end title musical composition written by Roy Budd and sung by Mary Hopkin is one of the most beautiful songs ever written for a motion picture.
Though in my opinion it's a rip.of something else. At the moment I can't recall what. And having said that it's still my favourite Budd.
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The end title musical composition written by Roy Budd and sung by Mary Hopkin is one of the most beautiful songs ever written for a motion picture.
Though in my opinion it's a rip.of something else. At the moment I can't recall what. And having said that it's still my favourite Budd.
Damien, you may be thinking of "The Water is Wide", which as we know was adapted by Goldsmith for THE RIVER WILD. Wasn't it originally an old Scottish folk song? If so, Budd's use of some of the harmonic structure would be quite appropriate. Having said that, I don't know if Budd consciously did that, much less the "rip off" you are trying to think of.
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Damien, you may be thinking of "The Water is Wide", which as we know was adapted by Goldsmith for THE RIVER WILD. Wasn't it originally an old Scottish folk song? If so, Budd's use of some of the harmonic structure would be quite appropriate. Having said that, I don't know if Budd consciously did that, much less the "rip off" you are trying to think of.
Yes that's it, I think that's it. Well if not a rip then maybe an ohmarge!
And Graham, you have irked my pet hate - my name is ' an' at th' end. Call me arsehole,gobshite, shitbag but spell my name right. 
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The end title musical composition written by Roy Budd and sung by Mary Hopkin is one of the most beautiful songs ever written for a motion picture.
Though in my opinion it's a rip.of something else. At the moment I can't recall what. And having said that it's still my favourite Budd.
Roy Budd never did a rip.of from anyone consciously of that I can assure you . He was a great admirer of Jerry Goldsmith and when contracted to compose his score to the film Field of Honor his main title theme has a Goldsmith/ Sand Pebbles feel about it and this was done on purpose .
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The end title musical composition written by Roy Budd and sung by Mary Hopkin is one of the most beautiful songs ever written for a motion picture.
Though in my opinion it's a rip.of something else. At the moment I can't recall what. And having said that it's still my favourite Budd.
Roy Budd never did a rip.of from anyone consciously of that I can assure you . He was a great admirer of Jerry Goldsmith and when contracted to compose his score to the film Field of Honor his main title theme has a Goldsmith/ Sand Pebbles feel about it and this was done on purpose .
If memory serves he ripped.bimself, does that count His zeppelin theme sounded like kidnapped, to me. And he did tell the tale of sending a tape of other people's music.and saying it was his- in order to get his foot in the door. Not exactly the same thing but he wouldn't be the first .
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Haha.
I remember him telling that tale at some Film Music Event I attended during the 80s or 90s.
Yes, he collected various pieces by Goldsmith, Williams, Bernstein etc (but not obvious main themes) onto a tape and submitted it as his resume to the many productions studios in England.
He joked it was how he got started properly in the business.
Classic!!
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Haha.
I remember him telling that tale at some Film Music Event I attended during the 80s or 90s.
Yes, he collected various pieces by Goldsmith, Williams, Bernstein etc (but not obvious main themes) onto a tape and submitted it as his resume to the many productions studios in England.
He joked it was how he got started properly in the business.
Classic!!
It may have been you or one of the gang that told me the tale.
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Haha.
I remember him telling that tale at some Film Music Event I attended during the 80s or 90s.
Yes, he collected various pieces by Goldsmith, Williams, Bernstein etc (but not obvious main themes) onto a tape and submitted it as his resume to the many productions studios in England.
He joked it was how he got started properly in the business.
Classic!!
It may have been you or one of the gang that told me the tale.
This is correct and it was a Demo tape he sent to the Producer of the movie : Soldier Blue.
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The mention of Jerry Goldsmith's use of "O WALY, WALY (The Water is Wide)" in THE RIVER was discussed here 13 years ago in 2008, including a post by me (at the end). I have a special affection for this music.
https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=55859
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Charles Gerhardt conducted The Romantic Strings and Heavenly Voices on the Readers Digest 10-LP Box Set titled BACKGROUND MOODS (RD4-26-K) and presented the most artistic, rich, and moving presentation of this song out there. The cue is on LP 1 (Side 2: "In A Haunting Mood", Cut 5). For those who still have a turntable, I most heartily recommend this box set, especially for the Gerhardt-conducted film music. I haven't found it on the internet.
Here is a link to the box set description:
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Background-Moods-Music-For-Your-Every-Mood-/release/14909919
Here is a link to box sets for sale:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=%22Readers+Digest%22+%26+%22Background+Moods%22&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=%22Readers+Digest%22+%26+%22Background+Moods%22
Here are some links to string versions:
ROYAL BALLET SINFONIA (Conducted by David Lloyd-Jones) (UK)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kkS5LuVCm0
WESTWOOD HIGH SCHOOL SYMPHONY (Texas)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlkJzYt5N8o
Here is a link for a vocal version by John Rutter and the Cambridge Singers (a little bland):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bXSGLpIHu0
NONE of these links can match the Gerhardt-conducted version for rich expressiveness and emotion.
These are the liner notes from the album:
O WALY, WALY (The Water Is Wide)
Some folk songs have a poignancy that touches the heart with a directness that the most inspired composer might envy. The British Isles have nurtured more than a few of these, and certainly one of the most eloquent is "O Waly, Waly," a Somerset song from the vast collection of the folklorist Cecil Sharp.
The melody we know. The lyrics are so movingly presented in BACKGROUND MOODS.
You can sing along in your head:
The water is wide, I cannot get o'er,
And neither have I wings to fly.
Give me a boat that will carry two,
And both shall row, my love and I.
Oh down in the meadow the other day
A-gathering flowers both fine and gay,
A-gathering flowers both red and blue
I little thought what love can do.
I put my hand into one soft bush
Thinking the sweetest flower to find.
I pricked my finger, I stood alone
And left the sweetest flower home.
I leaned my back up against some oak
Thinking that he was a trusty tree.
But first he bended and then he broke
And so did my false love to me.
A ship there is and she sails the sea,
She's loaded deep as deep can be.
But not so deep as the love I'm in.
I know not if I sink or swim.
Oh love is handsome and love is fine,
And love's a jewel while it is new.
But when it is old it groweth cold
And fades away like morning dew.
Ron Burbella
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"Kidnapped by Roy Budd."
"Kidnapped," by Roy Budd.
For want of a comma (and a couple of quotation marks) the kingdom was lost.
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