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 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 3:05 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Of course, I'm from a generation where I'm used to owning music, to build a collection. However, I am also always forward looking, be it in music or technology.
By now, I never actually listen to music from CDs anymore, except to check out something. If I get a new CD, I turn it into ALAC files, where they are distributed via NAS to my home stereo system, or I convert them to AACs for my car or otherwise on the go. Nevertheless, I still actually buy CDs rather than downloads. Basically for three reasons:

1. Availability. Of course, many of the expanded specialty labels soundtrack titles are not available as digital download, so there if one wants to own them, there is no other option.

2. Price. I think it's the labels and the dying CD business. They don't know what to do, and so they jam pack their super releases into generously packed sets which they sell for really low bucks, or they just budget price their recordings. I remember a time when Naxos classical CDs were the budget choice, but no longer, their prices remain relatively stable. But the big labels, they sell their CDs high price, and then, after short while, for low budget prices.
Just as a recent example, I see the (lossless or high-res) downloads for Maurizio Pollini's Chopin recordings priced between 11 to 12 Euros per CD, whereas I got the CD set of 9 recordings for less than 30 Euros. That's quite a difference in price! So that's a good reason to buy CDs and not downloads.

3. Booklets. I still enjoy booklets. Especially if they are as well done as the ones from Labels such as FSM, Intrada, LaLaLand, etc, jam packed with interesting information.

But it should just be a matter of time until CDs are no longer cheaper and booklets are distributed digitally and the rest of the stuff is available as download. Some Varèse Sarabande, Intrada, or Quartet releases already are. So that may well be the time when my CD buying times will be done. Especially since as far as film scores are concerned, most of the soundtracks I ever wanted are already released and in my collection.

So I was wondering:

Do you still buy CDs?

If yes, why, what are the reasons. Do you see the day coming when you no longer buy physical media (in the near or far future)?

If no, why not? If you ever did, when did you stop. What do you do instead.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 5:08 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

Of course I still buy them. That's very much part of the fun of soundtrack collecting. Not just listening to the music but the anticipation of receiving the item in the mail, opening the beautiful packaging and seeing the artwork on the discs and booklet and then (here's that word) whittling the music down to your own preferred listening experience. Still my favorite hobby.

For me 2019 has been a rather lackluster year so far. I've only bought one title. (LLL's Superman)

The second half of each year tends to be better because of the holiday releases at the end of the year such as LLL's Black Friday events. I'm looking forward to next week to see what their 500th release will be.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)


For me 2019 has been a rather lackluster year so far. I've only bought one title. (LLL's Superman)


That's what I notice, too. I still buy CDs, but rather sporadically. And it's getting to be less. I have bought a few soundtracks this year (and more other stuff, like classical or jazz), but most of the film music stuff I ever want(ed) I already have, so it's just here and there discovering some new stuff, or getting possibly interesting back catalogue scores I did not get the first time around, like CHATO'S LAND.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Of course I'll continue to buy CD's as long as they are produced and I can afford them. I get no joy in downloading music, none whatsoever.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I typically only buy CDs these days if I can't get the music digitally, so that means mostly soundtracks. Otherwise I'm streaming (including my own CD uploads on Apple Music, numbering in the thousands, for crissakes). I also buy the occasional Bandcamp digital download of electronic music, to support the artists.

Digital downloads are losing sales faster than CDs (because those consumers are converting more quickly to streaming). I wonder if there will come a day downloads go away and it's mostly streaming plus niche products (like vinyl and soundtrack CDs).

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Yes, I still buy CDs, and (used) vinyl. If I buy a download it's because it's not available on physical, and I always burn it to CD so I can put it on the shelf.

I can't see I will ever stop doing physical.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Yup, I love 'em & am still buying them, but hardly buying any soundtracks now. This year I've only bought Francis Lai's, I'll Never Forget What's 'is Name CD (Quartet), & my next purchase will be the Tadlow Hammer set, but after that, who knows. I can only think of a couple of soundtracks I really want: Francis Lai's Hello-Goodbye, the Rozsa Conducts Rozsa albums & Williams, The Towering Inferno, so maybe nothing else this year.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I typically only buy CDs these days if I can't get the music digitally, so that means mostly soundtracks. Otherwise I'm streaming (including my own CD uploads on Apple Music, numbering in the thousands, for crissakes). I also buy the occasional Bandcamp digital download of electronic music, to support the artists.

Digital downloads are losing sales faster than CDs (because those consumers are converting more quickly to streaming). I wonder if there will come a day downloads go away and it's mostly streaming plus niche products (like vinyl and soundtrack CDs).


Yup same. Every once in a while I buy music I have on streaming once I decide it is something I would have bought before on CD. FLAC or 24 bit FLAC depending on the price difference. If all the film scores were on digital lossless downloads I would only buy the occasional release there as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I'm buying fewer and fewer CDs, and I very rarely purchase a download. It's a function of available space in my house and my advancing age. With my present collection of LPs and CDs I could start playing them one by one and probably not live long enough to get through them all!

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 4:42 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I'm with Nicolai on a number of points, particularly the booklets and the relative absence of quality film music available for download. I loved the big art on LPs but hated the inevitable scratches, warps etc. that vinyl is prone to, and prayed throughout my childhood for someone to invent a format for music which was permanent and didn't scratch up. With reasonable care and other than a few quality control issues, CDs are indeed the answer to my childhood prayer. Even with that, I never in my wildest dreams imagined that my nerdy little niche interest in film music would be so well "fed" by the proliferation of film score releases that we have seen in the past 25 years or so, and all on CD. All (or most) of the music I ever wanted to own, and in a format that is relatively permanent -- yup, that's a winner for me! My computer may crash at any time, but I'll still have my music.

Another aspect of the CD vs. digital download business that is big for me: When I plunk down my bucks, sorry, but I just have to "get something" in return! Digital downloads are really *nothing*, just a collection of 0s and 1s stored on a computer, whereas I get art, information and that little plastic disc full of music when I buy a CD: in other words, *something*. (I don't buy Kindle books either, gotta have real books I can fill up a shelf with, thumb through without turning on an electronic device, and even swat the occasional crawling insect with if I need to.) Bottom line, I'm on board with CDs for as long as I can get them.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

Yes, I still buy CDs but I feel like my 1999, 2000 transition phase is coming around again. What do I mean? I had around 150-200 CDs of classic rock and metal before I moved out of my parents house.
MP3's and digital takes over and I sell all my music. Almost ten years ago I discover film scores and I have about 110 CDs now again in the CD tower. I have alot to listen to and but I have been slowing down my buying. Like a few here, these last two years, I been buying less probably because I have all the titles I want. Film score fans love the CD and I doubt I will sell these limited editions off this time around so easily. But I am at my limit.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I buy CDs even when I already have a score on cdr.
Recent examples:
:

THE AVENGERS
TWILIGHT ZONE 85
DAMNATION ALLEY..

I hafta have the CD and booklet or its not as satisfying.
Brm

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 9:37 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

One other thing is having them on a shelf with other scores.
Sometimes you forget a particular score but as you peruse your shelves you notice it, remember it, and play it.
Like in a library!

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2019 - 11:46 PM   
 By:   dtw   (Member)

Pretty much what Jon and Bruce said.

The tangibility and physicality of the thing is almost as important as the music itself. You know you've got it, you can remember you've got it, you can see you've got it. The sleeves, the booklets: for the artwork and for the notes. My format of preference is CD. I'll happily buy old stuff on vinyl if it's easier and/or cheaper to get hold of then the CD equivalent, and I'll (with a bit of a sigh) buy NEW stuff on vinyl if it doesn't look like a CD is in the offing, and if the price isn't silly. I'll buy digital if it looks like a physical release is unlikely (and especially for short-form music like Korzeniowski's Escape from Tomorrow or a number or John Williams concertos) but then tend to burn it to CD-R and make/print my own cover for it and put it (Navarrete's Inkheart, several Toprak releases, Goodall's Johnny English Reborn, etc) on the shelf with the 'real' CDs.

Books too - I had a Kindle for a while; hardly ever used it. I have a few ebooks that I could read on the laptop but I don't; 99% of my reading is off paper.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2019 - 2:21 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I find it interesting here that some actually make CDRs of their downloads/files and print covers to sort them into their collection. Just to have something "physical".

The CDs I collected over the years certainly have something autobiographical about them. Of many, I remember the exact time and location where I got them. However, I don't have any more shelf space (and I mean both that I have no space on my CD shelves and practically no space for more shelves :-) ), so I keep some CDs packed in drawers and boxes... I would actually buy more downloads, but as it is right now, the reasons I mentioned above still keep me buying more CDs.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2019 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Partway through Jessica Jones series 3, episode 7 very early this morning, something in the complex route from Netflix HQ via Virgin Media through to my telly failed, so I couldn’t watch the rest of it.

Reminded me again that tangible beats virtual every time.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2019 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

TG, reminds me of the times I put a CD in the player...and it wouldn't play. Or a VHS tape was eaten by the player. Etc.

All technologies fail from time to time, physical or digital. The error rate across all formats has seemed pretty consistent to me over the decades. Except vinyl and VHS. They sucked.

As to browsing the library, I do it all the time on Apple Music. I don't have to read sideways, and I can tap once to play.

You can have similar experiences digitally and physically. You don't have to want to do it, but you can.

Digital booklets are another matter, of course. Those are few and far between.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2019 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I store CDs VERTICALLY.
So, I don't hafta read " sideways"!

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2019 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I store CDs VERTICALLY.
So, I don't hafta read " sideways"!


Plus, you can play Jenga with them - or better yet, Bash!

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2019 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I find it interesting here that some actually make CDRs of their downloads/files and print covers to sort them into their collection. Just to have something "physical"



Well, I don't print covers...

 
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