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 Posted:   Aug 16, 2019 - 5:58 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

John Coltrane's soundtrack to the Canadian film "Cat in the Sack" (1964) is being released.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057937/reference

One year after the great success in 2018 of "Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album", Impulse will again release from his archives a forgotten treasure of John Coltrane, "Blue World", eight tracks recorded with McCoy Tyner (piano), Jimmy Garrison (double bass) and Elvin Jones (drums) on June 24, 1964 in the studios Rudy Van Gelder for A Cat in the Bag , the film by Quebec director Gilles Groulx who, in addition to the music of the saxophonist, had also used that of Vivaldi, Couperin and Mozart. "Blue World", distributed by Universal, will be in stores on September 27th.

https://www.jazzmagazine.com/jazzlive/blue-world-de-john-coltrane-lautre-lost-album/

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2019 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

John Coltrane Quartet with McCoy Tyner, Jimmy Garrison, and Elvin Jones: the greatest group EVER.

I never got to see this group live, but I did see Elvin Jones's group in 1979 in Chicago at The Jazz Showcase, and to this day I have never been so impressed with a single musician and what that musician could do for a group as I was with Elvin Jones. And I've been to a lot of concerts. . . .

P.S. As i mentioned on another thread somewhere, in Zachariah bad-ass Elvin Jones dressed in cowboy garb kicks the James Gang offstage (the rock group, not the outlaws) and performs undoubtedly the best drum solo ever heard in a rock 'n' roll western.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2019 - 4:10 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

John Coltrane Quartet with McCoy Tyner, Jimmy Garrison, and Elvin Jones: the greatest group EVER.

I never got to see this group live, but I did see Elvin Jones's group in 1979 in Chicago at The Jazz Showcase, and to this day I have never been so impressed with a single musician and what that musician could do for a group as I was with Elvin Jones. And I've been to a lot of concerts. . . .

P.S. As i mentioned on another thread somewhere, in Zachariah bad-ass Elvin Jones dressed in cowboy garb kicks the James Gang offstage (the rock group, not the outlaws) and performs undoubtedly the best drum solo ever heard in a rock 'n' roll western.


I saw Elvin live in Beantown circa 2000 and it was phenomenal.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2019 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

John Coltrane Quartet with McCoy Tyner, Jimmy Garrison, and Elvin Jones: the greatest group EVER.

I actually have a hard time listening to any Coltrane before this group, knowing that I can put this on instead.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2019 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

That period with this group . . . it was one of those instances where everything came together, not just the musicians but Coltrane was then, as always, in transition, and these guys were just killing it, whether cranking it up on "My Favorite Things" or reaching deep, deep down on gut-wrenching tunes like "Alabama." When Coltrane kept moving and adding more musicians--second tenor player, drummer, and bass player the music evolved into something else that was quite good, but not like that original quartet.

Best groups I never saw . . .

1) Coltrane Q (see above)
2) Miles Davis with Shorter, Hancock, Carter, and Williams
3) Thelonious Monk with Coltrane at the 5-Spot
4) Tony Williams Lifetime with John Mclaughlin and Larry Young
5) Charlie Parker with Dizzy Gillespie
6) Charles Mingus with Eric Dolphy
7) Captain Beefheart Trout Mask Replica Band

I'm stopping here . . .

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2019 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Best groups I never saw . . .

1) Coltrane Q (see above)
2) Miles Davis with Shorter, Hancock, Carter, and Williams
3) Thelonious Monk with Coltrane at the 5-Spot
4) Tony Williams Lifetime with John Mclaughlin and Larry Young
5) Charlie Parker with Dizzy Gillespie
6) Charles Mingus with Eric Dolphy
7) Captain Beefheart Trout Mask Replica Band

I'm stopping here . . .


I agree with your choices, although I am not familiar with Tony Williams Lifetime.

I would add to your list:

Clifford Brown with Max Roach
A few different lineups of Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers
Machito playing Chico O'Farrill charts.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2019 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I'll have to check out Machito, though I've heard a lot of Chico O'Farrill albums and saw his son Arturo perform a few years ago with an octet--that version of "Siboney" with his horn section playing the melody was priceless.

When drummer Tony Williams left Miles Davis in 1969 things were changing in America. Viet Nam, assasinations, etc. Williams was influenced by the volume and electricity of rock and the impolite anger of avant-garde jazz, so he didn't want to play Miles' cool jazz. Williams brought electric guitarist John McLaughlin over from England--when he was unknown here!--and Larry Young on organ, and played some of the loudest, nastiest music of the era. A power trio with a chip on their shoulder. Cream without the commercial potential. That version of the Tony Williams Lifetime made 2 albums--Emergency and Turn It Over-- and broke up. McLaughlin then formed The Mahavishnu Orchestra, a group I did manage to see.

 
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