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I saw it yesterday at the Regal 42nd Street theater in New York City. The sound mix was INCREDIBLE! The music WAS front in center. Very satisfying experience. A reminder of whats missing from film since 1999.
I didnt know this was the original sound mix, since it never sounded so good to my ears. (And I saw it on a clean print with the 1991 5-Movie Marathon at New York's Loews Astor Plaza...and this sounded WAY better)
The shots inside the Klingon Battle sequence were so clean they looked weird. Almost like a very clean scene from an episode of TNG. Not like the film I remember, yet nonetheless awesome. Its a contradiction, I know, but that's what made it cool.
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Sep 16, 2019 - 1:39 PM
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Broughtfan
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Happening Wednesday, here. Thus far, with only one other ticket sold, it will be like having a private screening of the film.
The excitement generated by a combination of Doug Trumbull's awesome visuals and Jerry's spectacular music score (Jerry, who pulled off what I thought was, at the time, impossible, writing music for a space adventure just as exciting, powerful, grand and memorable as "Star Wars" and yet sounding nothing like JW).
You bet I'm goin'!
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Going Wednesday. At the moment my friend and I are the only two at the showing. Ah well. (It looked like a fair number of people went yesterday, but I was busy.)
Good to hear about the sound mix. While I understand with what they were trying to do with the Director's Edition sound mix I think they used too many elements from later Star Trek as well as The Original Series. TMP is a wonderful thing of its own.
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Damn working as usual. Wish they had these special screenings for 7 days instead of two random days in the week.
I agree. Why not play these over the weekend or 7 days so people can go. Also these special screenings never play at theaters near me.
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Damn working as usual. Wish they had these special screenings for 7 days instead of two random days in the week.
I think the attendance I'm seeing rather asks the question "Why are they doing TWO days?" 
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It was a wonderful experience. I think they were only about five or six other people in the theater with me. On a gigantic screen, it’s easy to see how empty this film actually is of content. However, visuals are still amazing.
This didn’t feel like a Blu-ray being projected. The scenes needing them had the original film’s subtitles. They didn’t have the Blu-ray versions. There was also a great deal of film grain. I didn’t feel like I was watching a film with heavy digital noise reduction. The sound mix was great. The sounds add music were very loud, but the dialog was crisp throughout. I heard sounds I never noticed before, like the a/c on the bridge and a lack of ambient "boops" that were all over The Wrath of Khan.
It was a very satisfying visual experience. I really felt like I was watching a projected film and really wish this version was on blu-ray.
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Damn working as usual. Wish they had these special screenings for 7 days instead of two random days in the week.
I agree. Why not play these over the weekend or 7 days so people can go. Also these special screenings never play at theaters near me.
Because they won't make much money devoting a screen to this for that long. There were literally 7 or 8 people in the theater - including me and my wife.
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GRRRRRRGRGRGRGR I'm working otherwise I would be all over this. I just saw the original JP in the theater for the first time since my youth in '93 and it really was a fantastic experience. I've sadly never seen a Star Trek film in theater so this is a bucket list item.
What's sadder...I can't think of any of Jerry's movies that I've seen in the theater :'(
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Sep 16, 2019 - 3:17 PM
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Brad Wills
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Audio mix was in the original stereo with no use of surround channels.
I'm not sure that the original sound mix was stereo only. My memories of this movie are indelible for a number of reasons, all of which are "firsts": Opening night coincided with my first night on my very first cinema job (Crossroads Cinemas in Lexington, KY), which had the city's first Dolby System. The theater was relatively small and the setup sounded spectacular, very immersive. We were swamped for the first couple of weeks, then the film limped along after audience interested waned. However, this was in the days of "blind bidding" for exhibitors and we were contractually obligated to run it for six months! It struggled mightily toward the end, so much so that we got out of the contract and dumped it after two months. But over the course of all that time, I would duck into the house as often as I could just to soak it all in, never tiring of the spectacle of it all, both sight and sound. I remember vividly the echoing sounds of V'ger that bounced across the rear speakers, the ambient flashes once the crew is in the V'ger's realm, and above all I remember how much impact the score made. And I also have a very clear memory of one attendee coming out after the movie was over and remarking about the surround effects, especially noting the bird sounds during the "Games" sequence. He asked something like, "Are there speakers in the back of the theater? I could have sworn I heard a bird in there. There's not one trapped, is there?" No, we assured him, it was the Dolby Surround effects.
Now I'm a bit puzzled.
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Sep 16, 2019 - 8:25 PM
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gmontag451
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My wife and I took our 9 yr old daughter to see this on Sunday here in NJ. I really enjoyed the documentary they played before the film. Unfortunately they had the sound up so loud and it was so painful to all 7 of the people in the theater that we complained. (They turned it down). Additionally the film (and documentary) were out of focus, which they did not fix. Being my first Fathom experience, I'm curious if this is the fault of the theater, Fathom, or Paramount.
Aside from the focus and sound issues, it was great to see it on the big screen. I noticed several things I hadn't before, such as the Native Americans on the Enterprise! I definitely felt the theatrical version misses something without the little extra character moments of the TV Special Edition which I grew up with. My daughter (who has recently seen ST2, 4 and 5) enjoyed it as well. She got a little antsy during the V'Ger flyover and Spock's walk, but was glued to the screen for the finale, leaning forward intently concerned for what was happening. That or she really had to go pee.
I still hold on to hope that one day the film will get a Bluray release of all three versions (theatrical, special edition, and director's cut).
Edit: As Brad mentioned the surround audio, I'm nearly certain there were some elements which were on the surround channels, such as intercom voices, the bird effects, and Kirk's wrist communicator during the Voyager 6 segment.
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Sep 16, 2019 - 10:59 PM
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Zoragoth
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It was fabulous seeing TMP on the big screen. I too noticed lots of little details, like the Native American crew members. The special effects, the V'ger design all hold up so well, and Goldsmith's score -! Well, as someone else said on this thread, it makes one long for the days that music was expected to do some of the work that sound effects do now. Overall, I was reminded of why it remains one of my favorite TREKs - for all its supposed faults, it's a truly epic science fiction film that actually deals with a few relevant SF themes. As much as I like many of the sequels, I wish they could have maintained that large scale tone, which was so beautifully supported by Goldsmith's majestic score.
The projection/sound at the Cinemark here in Fort Collins was top-notch. I too noticed a few effects from the side speakers.
... And happy to report that my screening had at least 20 attendees. :-)
I noticed in the lobby a poster for an upcoming screening of ALIEN - yet another chance to hear classic Goldsmith inside a modern theater!
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Actually what Fathom is playing is the DCP that the Blu-ray was created from.
It is also a full 5.1 mix.
So essentially what you are seeing is a slightly higher resolution version of the Blu-ray that also possesses a wider color gamut (Digital Cinema's P3 color space vs. standard Blu-ray REC709).
If there was no sound coming from the surround speakers then the fault lies with the particular theater it was being shown in.
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