I think Giacchino does well taking existing music and making it cinematic. I love his "Star Trek" scores and especially his "Speed Racer" score. He also has done well making some good themes such as "John Carter" and "Spider-Man: Homecoming" so I'm actually excited to see what he does with "The Batman." All in all it comes down to creating a theme for Batman. He's had one for every movie and the only shame would be making music for it that's not memorable.
Please do! I'd genuinely like to understand your reasons for such despise. He's not the best, far from that, but he's a very efficient composer. Very much like Silvestry or Horner to some extent.
Thanks for the challenge! I'm too drunk now to formulate anything meaningful, but I'll chime in tomorrow.
I'll second the motion. At least, it should be an interesting post about movie music, no matter if I agree or not with the opinion. Would be much better than personal attacks, rants about shipping, lacks of CD release and what not.
People are entitled to their opition, and their opinions is what is making this board alive. Give them some slack.
This is fantastic news. I've been hoping for a version of Batman that dials down the gritty darkness slightly and amps up the operatic cartoonishness again. I long for a live-action Batman that hits the exact tenor of the original BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES—dark but not ghoulish, over-the-top without being grisly, and serious but not somber. Giacchino is perfect for this approach, but then Pattinson had to ruin it the day after the announcement by frothing about what an unheroic and morally ambiguous take on Batman he's doing. Sheesh. Why can't Batman be an edgy but noble monk-knight who may scare the bad guys but always does the right thing eventually?* We get the versions of heroes we deserve.
*Nolan nailed this aspect of the character for the most part, but I always preferred Burton's Gothic aesthetic to Nolan's techno-urban take. Again, the cartoon struck just the right tone, which is also the tone I can imagine Giacchino's music striking if left to his own devices. Let's hope his eight-year-old boy sensibilities aren't shackled to an angsty seventeen-year-old boy's version of the story.
Pardon my candor but who the heck is Thor? And why his opinion seems to matter so much in the forum??
The short answer is that his opinion doesn't matter more or less than anyone else's, however much they are couched in pseudo intellectual jargon. Opinons, by their very nature are subjective and everyone here, including the soundtrack weirdos - but then that is the vast majority of us - has a valid "opinion". Just refer to any of the numerous FSM flame wars of the past, present AND future.
I have nothing against Giacchino`s music. The only thing I do not like about him is his love for strange track titles just like Chris Young (and somewhat Elliot Goldenthal). I never liked or understand that. I just wanna be able to follow the plot of the movie through the track titles. Unless you are extremely familiar with the movie and it`s music then what`s the point with those idiotic track titles. But other than that I have nothing against Mr. Giacchino and his music.
I have nothing against Giacchino`s music. The only thing I do not like about him is his love for strange track titles just like Chris Young (and somewhat Elliot Goldenthal). I never liked or understand that. I just wanna be able to follow the plot of the movie through the track titles. Unless you are extremely familiar with the movie and it`s music then what`s the point with those idiotic track titles. But other than that I have nothing against Mr. Giacchino and his music.
Perhaps they title them that way because they feel it helps them be more music unto itself rather than something submissive to something else. Just a guess though.
I have nothing against Giacchino`s music. The only thing I do not like about him is his love for strange track titles just like Chris Young (and somewhat Elliot Goldenthal). I never liked or understand that. I just wanna be able to follow the plot of the movie through the track titles. Unless you are extremely familiar with the movie and it`s music then what`s the point with those idiotic track titles. But other than that I have nothing against Mr. Giacchino and his music.
I rather enjoy the track titles. I was disappointed that Rogue One didn't follow this same method, although the booklet did state what the pun-titles would have been, and I went ahead and added them to the track titles in brackets.
This is fantastic news. I've been hoping for a version of Batman that dials down the gritty darkness slightly and amps up the operatic cartoonishness again. I long for a live-action Batman that hits the exact tenor of the original BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES—dark but not ghoulish, over-the-top without being grisly, and serious but not somber. Giacchino is perfect for this approach, but then Pattinson had to ruin it the day after the announcement by frothing about what an unheroic and morally ambiguous take on Batman he's doing. Sheesh. Why can't Batman be an edgy but noble monk-knight who may scare the bad guys but always does the right thing eventually?* We get the versions of heroes we deserve.
*Nolan nailed this aspect of the character for the most part, but I always preferred Burton's Gothic aesthetic to Nolan's techno-urban take. Again, the cartoon struck just the right tone, which is also the tone I can imagine Giacchino's music striking if left to his own devices. Let's hope his eight-year-old boy sensibilities aren't shackled to an angsty seventeen-year-old boy's version of the story.
Precisely this.
That cartoon does so much more justice to the character than ANY live action film. The tone is exactly right. The producers of that should have been given at least ONE go at a live action film. Enough of the reboots! Just give us another episode in Batman's fight against crime.
I do however like the business of making this an actual detective film. Just hope they don't give him a stupid voice. Give in to dramatic license here and let him speak normally. Once again, TAS' Kevin Conroy conveys a difference between Batman and Bruce Wayne very well. No gimmicks.
Very disappointing. I’ve never warmed up to Giacchino. I have a huge library and have sold every album of his I’ve tried to get into. In my opinion, his music is boring, uninspired, derivative, and calculated. There is no warmth and feels very clinical. “Safe” would be another way I’d describe his music. Almost a parody of the Modern Age greats.
All opinion and I still respect other people’s tastes. He’s just not one of mine.
My thoughts exactly about Giacchino - I would take Desplat's Rise of the Guardians anytime over Giacchino's Rogue One.
Very disappointing. I’ve never warmed up to Giacchino. I have a huge library and have sold every album of his I’ve tried to get into. In my opinion, his music is boring, uninspired, derivative, and calculated. There is no warmth and feels very clinical. “Safe” would be another way I’d describe his music. Almost a parody of the Modern Age greats.
All opinion and I still respect other people’s tastes. He’s just not one of mine.
Well articulated. I feel exactly the same way about JJ Abrams as a director funnily enough. In the case of both him and Giacchino, they feel to me (give or take the occasional exception) like creatively they’re merely Greatest Hits ‘echoes’ of past far more talented people. I do have respect for what Giacchino achieved with Rogue One under very stressful conditions, so perhaps he produces his best work when up against the clock? Perhaps he’ll surprise us with Batman, but it just seems like a rather uninspired choice at this point. You really need a composer that understands character and drama, nuance, creating atmosphere, rather than the obvious bombastic action beats and ‘locked in to exactly what’s on the screen’ scoring, with nothing below the surface.
"You really need a composer that understands character and drama, nuance, creating atmosphere, rather than the obvious bombastic action beats and ‘locked in to exactly what’s on the screen’ scoring, with nothing below the surface" ---------------- Have you heard his APES scores? Or JOHN CARTER...in context with their respective films? LOST? They do exactly what you describe on that tin above (to me, anyway).
"You really need a composer that understands character and drama, nuance, creating atmosphere, rather than the obvious bombastic action beats and ‘locked in to exactly what’s on the screen’ scoring, with nothing below the surface" ---------------- Have you heard his APES scores? Or JOHN CARTER...in context with their respective films? LOST? They do exactly what you describe on that tin above (to me, anyway).
