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 Posted:   Oct 24, 2019 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

As with other complete official cue lists I've posted for Goldsmith scores over the past couple days, this one also is sourced from the Academy's online listing of what they hold the written sketches for in their library. I have put apparently-unreleased cues in bold, though some might be on the expanded Intrada album under different titles (if anyone can match those up, let me know and I'll correct this):

http://collections.new.oscars.org/Details/Archive/71302970

1-4 "Night Swim," 4 page
2-6 "The Morning After," 2 pages
3-1 "Silent Enemy (A track)," 8 pages
3-1 "Silent Enemy (B track)," 8 pages
4-1 "Positive Identification," 4 pages
4-3 "Relieved of Duty," 7 pages
6-1 "Like Father, Like Son," 13 pages
6-3 "Table Talk," 2 pages
6-5 "Family Talk," 3 pages
7-2 "Serious Talk," 1 page
7-3 "Come Again," 1 page
7-4 "The Long Goodbye," 6 pages
7-5 "Welcome to Toulebonne," 5 pages
9-1 "Do Not Disturb," 4 pages
10-1 "Torrey's Arrival," 10 pages [9-2 crossed out]
11-3 "Change of Orders," 5 pages
12-1 "Night Visit," 3 pages [11-2 crossed out]
12-2 "Rice and Sake," 2 pages [11-1 crossed out]
"Intermission Music," 6 pages
12-3 "Mac's Arrival," 7 pages
13-2 "Old Sway Back," 3 pages [12-1 crossed out]
13-1/14-1 "One Way Ticket," 9 pages
14-2 "Man to Man," 4 pages
15-1 "Task Force," 5 pages
15-2 "Out of the Fog," 2 pages
15-3 "Out of the Fog (part II)," 1 page
15-4 "30 Minutes to Go," 1 page
19-1 "Bad News," 3 pages
19-2 "And So to Sleep," 2 pages
19-4 "He Can Talk," 1 page
19-3 "Main Title," 6 pages

Even IF a number of these cues are on the album and were simply re-titled, I must say that it looks like there's a lot more unreleased music from this score than I expected! Maybe some of these cues were written for but not even used in the film? I'll have to watch it and see how things match up with this. But for now, sign me up for a new recording of this one, if the full original tracks can't be uncovered! (I guess even if they were, Sony's moratorium on licensing out their album programs pretty much kills the chances of another expansion.)

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2019 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

I'm sure if the missing cues were available Doug Fake and team would have moved mountains to release a more complete version of this Goldsmith masterpiece.

As far as a new recording one can hope but...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2019 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

Weren't the original tapes personally destroyed by director Otto Preminger, to show his contempt at Goldsmith "ruining his movie"? Preminger was a schweinhund!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2019 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Of course it was Preminger himself who ruined his movie with some of the worse special effects ever for a major film.

I never heard that Preminger actually destroyed the tapes. Wow! Double wow !

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2019 - 9:38 PM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

A. Someone from a label (who shall remain nameless) said the score was well-represented on CD when I suggested it be rerecorded. This cue list determines that was a lie.

B. Preminger destroyed the tapes? This happened? What a P.O.S.

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2019 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

A. Someone from a label (who shall remain nameless) said the score was well-represented on CD when I suggested it be rerecorded. This cue list determines that was a lie.

Well, I am compelled to point out that some cues on the album have titles which aren't represented here in this official cue list, so I think there is less unreleased than what I bolded, but someone would have to figure out which of those differently-titled album tracks corresponds to the titles on these written cues.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2019 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

I never heard that Preminger actually destroyed the tapes. Wow! Double wow !

In an interview Goldsmith was asked about working with Preminger, but he refused to comment, other than stating that Preminger "was not a nice person". But supposedly Preminger became enraged by the score, took the recording tapes in his arms, and dumped them on the other side of the highway where the studio was, or something to that effect. A capital offense if the folks here were the jury.

I'm theorizing that Preminger was not very interested in film scores, and perhaps didn't actually hear the music until the premiere. In the last third of the score, during a sequence where Japanese warships traverse a minefield, Goldsmith's score gets a little avant-garde, a little more unconventional than most of the score, with a synth effect I think. This material is not represented on the LP. Maybe Preminger thought it was weird, since I can't imagine what else in the score he might have objected to. But he was sent into a rage, not out of character for him. And now we pay the price.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2019 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

It's well documented that Preminger was hard to please and treated some actors very harshly.


Preminger was very fortunate in his choice of composers as some truly great scores accompany his films. That said it appears
Preminger didn't appreciate the scores as he never rehired a composer.

There was a story that Preminger and Goldsmith had a falling out over scheduling as Goldsmith had to leave In Harm's Way for another commitment.

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2019 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Otto Preminger...
Now THAT'S who deserves to be called a " hack"

Right, Thor?

Btw I wish that minefield music you mentioned was available to be Included on.INTRADA

Had it been, I woulda snatched it up.frown

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2019 - 9:29 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Weren't the original tapes personally destroyed by director Otto Preminger, to show his contempt at Goldsmith "ruining his movie"? P

Preminger was a schweinhund!


More like a ' Deutsche bag'

Lol.

 
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