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 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

LAS SANDALIAS DEL PESCADOR most likely was among them.

I can remember buying this as a Cut-out at my downtown Woolworth in 1969 less then a year after the movie was released in Novemeber 1968. 3 for a Dollar is what they were charging. Major Labor Bonanza!



Burt Kwouk seems to be crying out for MGM and Alex North. Well, Alex got paid for his score.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Probably got it with Johnny Williams' PENELOPE and another great Soundtrack by Elmer Bernstein that had been sitting in the Cut-out bins for a couple years. PENELOPE was released in 1966. The studio was probably hoping to fill money bags like the one's Penelope is holding on the cover of the LP. You gotta love that unabashed Sexual 60's Soundtrack Artwork!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

LAS SANDALIAS DEL PESCADOR most likely was among them.

I can remember buying this as a Cut-out at my downtown Woolworth in 1969 less then a year after the movie was released in Novemeber 1968. 3 for a Dollar is what they were charging. Major Labor Bonanza!



This LP shipped directly to the cutout bin. There are still sealed copies out there with the 49 cents sticker attached.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Not to worry. Alex laid another egg with Dragonslayer.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

zoob! I just noticed (after all these years) that "Dick" is positioned between Natalie's legs.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

zoob! I just noticed (after all these years) that "Dick" is positioned between Natalie's legs.

Ah yes.

Wonder who was the marketing genius that made the decision to do all the names first and last in lower case letters?

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

zoob! I just noticed (after all these years) that "Dick" is positioned between Natalie's legs.

Ah yes.

Wonder who was the marketing genius that made the decision to do all the names first and last in lower case letters?


It's all down to type, zoob.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 5:12 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

zoob! I just noticed (after all these years) that "Dick" is positioned between Natalie's legs.

Ah yes.

Wonder who was the marketing genius that made the decision to do all the names first and last in lower case letters?


Maybe it's zooba himself - with a small "z".

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

zoob! I just noticed (after all these years) that "Dick" is positioned between Natalie's legs.

Ah yes.

Wonder who was the marketing genius that made the decision to do all the names first and last in lower case letters?


Maybe it's zooba himself - with a small "z".


It is small isn't it? Can't explain why it's like that. Schools always taught and still do, that the first letter of a name should be capitalized. I guess I was being rebellious.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Anyway, zooba, I truly don't know if film studios receive any profits from album sales.
I rather think that the record labels receive the revenue and pass along residuals to the performing artists.

Once, I heard that the cut-outs are made on albums to circumvent paying residuals to musicians, but whether this is true or not I'm unable to substantiate.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

LPs released concurrently along with their films' exhibitions were deemed nothing more than promotional items.
The music itself (regardless of quality or lack thereof) was subordinate to the marketing of motion pictures.

Even if MGM Records had commissioned Nancy Sinatra to warble "These shoes were made for fishing", most of the public cares not a jot about dramatic incidental music.
Fisherman shoes, Alex North & the Vatican were all ushered by John Q. Public into bargain bins via the fickle finger of fate.


 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2019 - 11:27 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

It would be fascinating to see the business plans and the financial results of the soundtrack divisions of the major studio record labels of the 1950s-1970s. I'm thinking of MGM Records, Warner Bros., 20th Century Fox, Colpix, Dot, Decca, Disney. Did any of them turn a profit on their soundtrack releases, or were they all loss leaders and publicity expenditures for the studios with which they were associated? Few of them ever had a DOCTOR ZHIVAGO to sell. Other big sellers of the era were with non-studio-associated labels (e.g., THE SOUND OF MUSIC with RCA, ROMEO AND JULIET with Capitol). On the other hand, even the studio-associated labels had other non-studio-associated artists recording for them (except maybe for Disney).

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2019 - 12:14 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

LPs released concurrently along with their films' exhibitions were deemed nothing more than promotional items..

This. We ended up collecting something that was a throwaway, a foyer afterthought !! Who knew it would grow into a niche business so small?! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2019 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

The worst of the 60s is Cleopatra - Fox invested 44 million that was serious £ its 1963, although the cast - script & score was a complete winner even highest gross movie that year, it nearly bankrupted Fox who expected too double there £, 58 million return weren't cutting it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2019 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Didn’t Fox also lose money on the soundtrack album for Doctor Dolittle? I seem to recall reading that a lot of the albums went unsold.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2019 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Back in the sixties, nearly every big film had a soundtrack released, I wonder what it's like now? I've lost touch, do they bother anymore? In those days all you could buy was the soundtrack, whereas now, you can buy the whole film (& looking great too) just a couple of months after the films release.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2019 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Back in the sixties, nearly every big film had a soundtrack released, I wonder what it's like now? I've lost touch, do they bother anymore? In those days all you could buy was the soundtrack, whereas now, you can buy the whole film (& looking great too) just a couple of months after the films release.

Yes, back then I guess it was the only way for the audience who saw the film and liked it , to relive or recall the theater going experience through it's music. The Soundtrack LPs and the often sold "Movie Programs" were the forerunners to Video and later visual releases that you could enjoy again and again at home.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2019 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Back in the sixties, nearly every big film had a soundtrack released, I wonder what it's like now? I've lost touch, do they bother anymore?


If you count downloads as "releases", I'll wager that a significantly higher proportion of films today have soundtrack releases than in the '60s, when I would guesstimate the percentage of films getting a soundtrack release was 20%.

Furthermore, I'll bet that more soundtracks have been released for '60s films since the '60s than in the '60s.

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2019 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

If you count downloads as "releases", I'll wager that a significantly higher proportion of films today have soundtrack releases than in the '60s, when I would guesstimate the percentage of films getting a soundtrack release was 20%.

Furthermore, I'll bet that more soundtracks have been released for '60s films since the '60s than in the '60s.


There is a confounding dynamic where many soundtrack releases for pictures somewhat bigger than average would receive a soundtrack release, but with the original tapes replaced by re-recordings reworked for LP distribution. Now, someone said, some time ago the reason for that was to avoid paying royalties to the original session players so the outlay on the cost of production would apparently be mitigated by sale volume against a smaller orchestra used to produce the "original motion picture soundtrack" LP.

Back then, the profit margins may well have provided realistic returns when set against the GDP and inflation of the day, which, when compared with the stupid money yields provided as earnings to moderately successful artists today bears absolutely no comparison with the relative modesty of yesteryear. That dynamic does not compare well with present day antics, where the expectancy for any capital investment on just about anything can't be short-changed by return of the equivalent of anything less than diamond mine production on steroids.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2019 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   jskoda   (Member)

Didn’t Fox also lose money on the soundtrack album for Doctor Dolittle? I seem to recall reading that a lot of the albums went unsold.

DOLITTLE sold a lot of albums, but that was a case of Fox far overestimating demand. They had convinced themselves that DOLITTLE would be another SOUND OF MUSIC in popularity and album sales, so they printed up millions of them. So even though it sold plenty, you can still easily find sealed copies of that album to this day.

 
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