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 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 9:37 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

I'm putting together a new 5-channel A/V system soon. The Towering Inferno from this set is one of the albums I'm most looking forward to playing on it.

I've had this set for a few years. My main motivation for getting it was The Poseidon Adventure main theme renditions

You stereophiles out there know that one of the real joys of record collecting is putting on lesser-known material and just letting it play, thereby discovering new, previously unknown delights.

I'm expecting that with The Towering Inferno score.

 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2025 - 11:36 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

I'm putting together a new 5-channel A/V system soon. The Towering Inferno from this set is one of the albums I'm most looking forward to playing on it.

I've had this set for a few years. My main motivation for getting it was The Poseidon Adventure main theme renditions

You stereophiles out there know that one of the real joys of record collecting is putting on lesser-known material and just letting it play, thereby discovering new, previously unknown delights.

I'm expecting that with The Towering Inferno score.



Ive already have a great set up of 7.2.4 Surround Set using an Denon AVR. The AVR allows various DSP fucntion suited for all types of mixes.

The EIGER SANCTION blows me away. Recently the Gerhardt STAR WARS/CLOSE ENCOUNTERS SACD Multi channel was an incredible live sound experience. Also the Berlin Concert when I streamed this live on Sunday was just sublime!

I've yet to play open my DISASTER set. Cant wait to start with EARTHQUAKE . Ahh ...One of these days..

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2025 - 1:33 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

The movie calls for the music it got, really, but don't forget that JW was signed for this project in early '74 and then had to do it while grieving the loss of his wife. All I can say is thank goodness Jaws came along and led us (and him) out of a very bleak time.
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The above was Mike Matessino on EARTHQUAKE. Sounds like you're making excuses, Mike, for what Williams wrote! And yet, despite the film not being great, and its calling for a lot of creeping-around music - plus it coming in the immediate aftermath of Barbara Ruick's death - the way the composer expanded on the sometimes stark, cold, drab film cues for the album recording three weeks later, showcases a wealth of emotions. At its most carefree and joyous, like in the upbeat character themes (for Rosa in particular). it conveys to me unbridled enthusiasm.

I love that re-recording so much, and now even more that we can hear it in superb sound and minus the Sensurround gimmick.

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2025 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

When it became clear that Sensurround was going to drive a lot of buzz about the movie, the album was changed to add sound effects before the start of the main title and an edit was done to make the "Medley" track "Watching And Waiting / Miles Pool Hall / Sam's Rescue" with effects in the middle. A subsequent pressing of the LP (and Quadrophonic release) dropped the jazz combo track "Something For Remy" and added more sound effects tracks!

I remember buying that LP – not at the time, but in the early 80s. The pressing was typical of MCA at the time – noisy. The sound effects didn't sound like anything – no real rumble, not much bass. I didn't have a great stereo, but my parents had a pretty good one, so I tried it on theirs. It wasn't much of anything, just a bit of crackly noise. I guess that's what happens when you try to recreate Sensurround™ in your home. How pointless!


LPs wouldn't have much bass anyway due to the potential for tracking errors with your stylus. Of course now you can sort of get the effect with a subwoofer and an 80hz crossover (its still not nearly as aggressive as the 5.1, or should I say 3.1, on the blu-rays though).

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2025 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

The movie calls for the music it got, really, but don't forget that JW was signed for this project in early '74 and then had to do it while grieving the loss of his wife. All I can say is thank goodness Jaws came along and led us (and him) out of a very bleak time.
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The above was Mike Matessino on EARTHQUAKE. Sounds like you're making excuses, Mike, for what Williams wrote! And yet, despite the film not being great, and its calling for a lot of creeping-around music - plus it coming in the immediate aftermath of Barbara Ruick's death - the way the composer expanded on the sometimes stark, cold, drab film cues for the album recording three weeks later, showcases a wealth of emotions. At its most carefree and joyous, like in the upbeat character themes (for Rosa in particular). it conveys to me unbridled enthusiasm.

I love that re-recording so much, and now even more that we can hear it in superb sound and minus the Sensurround gimmick.


Not excuses, just giving the context. As always JW knew exactly what music the movie needed and also put together a great companion album

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2025 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Amer Zahid: I've already have a great set up of 7.2.4 Surround Set using an Denon AVR. The AVR allows various DSP fucntion suited for all types of mixes.

The EIGER SANCTION blows me away. Recently the Gerhardt STAR WARS/CLOSE ENCOUNTERS SACD Multi channel was an incredible live sound experience. Also the Berlin Concert when I streamed this live on Sunday was just sublime!

I've yet to play open my DISASTER set. Cant wait to start with EARTHQUAKE . Ahh ...One of these days..


I've already got all those Gerhardt/NPO SACD's, minus Gone With the Wind, which isn't a quad album anyway. I've enjoyed all those albums transferred onto my phone. Listening in loudspeaker quadraphonic is one of the chief reasons I'm putting together a full A/V system.

Interesting that I'll have to buy a cheap Sony multichannel Blu-ray player to hear the quad SACD's. I'm buying a standalone SACD player for treasured two-channel SACD's, but if I want to play all my old three, four and five channel SACD's there's no alternative but the $300 Sony player.

Strange.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2025 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

A couple more observations/ cormorants/ questions about THE TOWERING INFERNO. The track "Susan and Doug" is unique to the LP prog. It is mentioned fleetingly in the liner notes, but I had to go back to check. I imagine that it's missing from the "complete" score CD1 because it would have pushed the timing to over the 80 minute mark. Perhaps a lesser concern was that it might have seemed like overkill of the same theme. Anyway, the "forever discontent" side of me mourns the fact that it's not part of the main programme. Couldn't they have made the first disc bigger? Just by a millimetre?

"Trapped Lovers" as titled on the old LP prog is, I think, a combination of CD1's "Facing the Flames" and "Immolation", only in reverse order, is that correct? I suppose that John Williams thought it played better in the switched form.

"The Helicopter Explosion" from the old prog isn't actually "The Helicopter Explodes" from CD1, is it? Isn't it really "The First Casualty", or maybe a combination of tracks?

I was going to say that this double CD is the jewel in the crown of the whole box set, but for a quick fix ye cannae beat the EARTHQUAKE prog as originally conceived by the composer.

More later. You have been warned.

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2025 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

...about THE TOWERING INFERNO. The track "Susan and Doug" is unique to the LP prog. It is mentioned fleetingly in the liner notes, but I had to go back to check....

It's a bonus track on the FSM disc.

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/180/Towering-Inferno-The/

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2025 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah, seems like it was probably written and recorded specifically for the album (albeit at the same film sessions), rather than for use in the film.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2025 - 10:35 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)



I've already got all those Gerhardt/NPO SACD's, minus Gone With the Wind, which isn't a quad album anyway. I've enjoyed all those albums transferred onto my phone. Listening in loudspeaker quadraphonic is one of the chief reasons I'm putting together a full A/V system.

Interesting that I'll have to buy a cheap Sony multichannel Blu-ray player to hear the quad SACD's. I'm buying a standalone SACD player for treasured two-channel SACD's, but if I want to play all my old three, four and five channel SACD's there's no alternative but the $300 Sony player.

Strange.


I too stayed away from GWTW Stereo SACD. Probably will purchase it with their next Gerhardt release-its been around 6 months when they [Dutton] released their last batch. Just hoping more Gerhardt titles including JEDI to come.

A good decent SACD player will go a long way but most are stereo enabled only. My OPPO 205 4k player was a perfect replacement when I acquired it by chance from someone who was relinquishing his entire equipment a few years ago.

The following company has a remarkeable 4K player with astonishing quality DAC for SACD. Expsneive but worth the investment. This would be my next upgrade from Oppo.

https://magnetar-audio.com/

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2025 - 10:48 PM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)



The following company has a remarkeable 4K player with astonishing quality DAC for SACD. Expsneive but worth the investment. This would be my next upgrade from Oppo.

https://magnetar-audio.com/


No need to spend big money on a "high end" SACD player when the Sony ones are inexpensive. The DAC in a Blu-ray player is irrelevant. Simply send your audio via HDMI to your AV receiver. If you're using even a mid-range AV receiver the DAC there will outperform the one in the player. The disc player is best used as a transport only.

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2025 - 11:34 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)



The following company has a remarkeable 4K player with astonishing quality DAC for SACD. Expsneive but worth the investment. This would be my next upgrade from Oppo.

https://magnetar-audio.com/


No need to spend big money on a "high end" SACD player when the Sony ones are inexpensive. The DAC in a Blu-ray player is irrelevant. Simply send your audio via HDMI to your AV receiver. If you're using even a mid-range AV receiver the DAC there will outperform the one in the player. The disc player is best used as a transport only.


The Sony will play fine but for audiophiles the experience will be less than stellar irrespecticve of the AVR. Ive done that and the output was bland and simple. The high end players give you quality and remarkeable sonic clarity. the difference is very notable.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2025 - 2:58 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

A couple more observations/ cormorants/ questions about THE TOWERING INFERNO. The track "Susan and Doug" is unique to the LP prog. It is mentioned fleetingly in the liner notes, but I had to go back to check. I imagine that it's missing from the "complete" score CD1 because it would have pushed the timing to over the 80 minute mark. Perhaps a lesser concern was that it might have seemed like overkill of the same theme. Anyway, the "forever discontent" side of me mourns the fact that it's not part of the main programme. Couldn't they have made the first disc bigger? Just by a millimetre?

"Trapped Lovers" as titled on the old LP prog is, I think, a combination of CD1's "Facing the Flames" and "Immolation", only in reverse order, is that correct? I suppose that John Williams thought it played better in the switched form.

"The Helicopter Explosion" from the old prog isn't actually "The Helicopter Explodes" from CD1, is it? Isn't it really "The First Casualty", or maybe a combination of tracks?

I was going to say that this double CD is the jewel in the crown of the whole box set, but for a quick fix ye cannae beat the EARTHQUAKE prog as originally conceived by the composer.

More later. You have been warned.


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Although dogplant and Yavar subsequently commented on my above post, I've taken the liberty of quoting myself just to keep things together.

I went back to the FSM notes and found that "I was right" about "Trapped Lovers" and "The Helicopter Explodes". I'm taking no credit though, seeing as I'd obviously just retained the info after having read it once in 2001.

"Susan and Doug" actually does appear briefly in the film. Jeff Bond's liner notes for the LLL box say that you can hear it just before the ribbon-cutting scene. So it was recorded specificallyfor the film - unless it had already been recorded for the album along with the film sessions... and then put into the film as an afterthought.

"THERE ARE SOME THINGS IT IS BETTER NOT TO KNOW"

 
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