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 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

Happened upon 'American Beauty' about a week ago, hadn't seen it in many years. The film still feels fresh and Spacey's performance, 'stylishly new, invigorating and just excellent'. I sincerely hope he can recover from all this and move on, in some positive direction, with his career.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

So do I, Dave, so do I. A fantastic actor, regardless of all the things he's done in private. I refuse to let that colour my appreciation of the films he's in, or his performance in them.

As far as I know, all allegations against him have now been dropped, so he's "free" in a legal sense. Of course, he's still a persona non grata in a practical sense, as nobody wants to hire him. I'm hoping time will heal all wounds, and that he can get back to acting at some point.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I would like to see him back again too

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

No question that he has always been a terrific actor.

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

No question that he has always been a terrific actor.

Indeed. An absolute trash bin of a person, but a terrific actor.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

It's funny....I often talk to people who can't watch SEVEN or THE USUAL SUSPECTS or films like that because of what Spacey has done. That's never been an issue to me. I appreciate the art of people who have problematic personal issues. I love Michael Jackson, Roman Polanski, Bernard Herrmann, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Klaus Kinski, Mel Gibson, Jon Voight, you name it. I separate the appreciation of their artistic work from their controversial non-artistic sides.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

It's funny....I often talk to people who can't watch SEVEN or THE USUAL SUSPECTS or films like that because of what Spacey has done. That's never been an issue to me. I appreciate the art of people who have problematic personal issues. I love Michael Jackson, Roman Polanski, Bernard Herrmann, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Klaus Kinski, Mel Gibson, Jon Voight, you name it. I separate the appreciation of their artistic work from their controversial non-artistic sides.

I really do apprecaite 'where you're coming from' with your love of these extremely talented artists Thor, but listing them all here is well, I think we're going to start hearing from 'The Usual Suspects' from the boards who will want to argue; thankfully, I've got my phaser 'on stun', (my ignore list). And also Thor, though this won't come as much of a surprise, I've NEVER seen the film of 'The Usual Suspects', but I have it on my HBO list to see. Didn't Spacey win an Oscar for this film as well, or maybe 'Seven'? 'Sevin' I saw when it first came out and not since then, and I only remember Pitt and Freeman in it, not Spacey at all.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Sorry, I don't mean to start a controversy that will shut the thread down by listing all those names, but the risk is always there -- in the shadows -- with a thread like this.

In any case, DO watch THE USUAL SUSPECTS, if you get the chance. It's a marvelous film, and even though you're probably well aware of its twist by now, it's still one of the best thrillers of the 90s.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

Sorry, I don't mean to start a controversy that will shut the thread down by listing all those names, but the risk is always there -- in the shadows -- with a thread like this.

In any case, DO watch THE USUAL SUSPECTS, if you get the chance. It's a marvelous film, and even though you're probably well aware of its twist by now, it's still one of the best thrillers of the 90s.


TWIST? Whatever surprises I discover will be new to me, the film has gone unseen by me all these years and I've heard of no 'twists'. So...now I'm really interested!

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Sorry, I don't mean to start a controversy that will shut the thread down by listing all those names, but the risk is always there -- in the shadows -- with a thread like this.

In any case, DO watch THE USUAL SUSPECTS, if you get the chance. It's a marvelous film, and even though you're probably well aware of its twist by now, it's still one of the best thrillers of the 90s.


So Thor, believe it or not I agree completely, with both the sentiment and the recommendation. I see no problem with your listing of names, it just points to the fact that in their private lives our "stars" are often afflicted with the same sorts of character flaws as those sitting in the audience. I've been entertained many times by Spacey's performances and would not be disappointed to see some film producer taking a chance on bringing him back into the fold. Hey, if Mel Gibson can work, just about anybody should be able to!

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

In any case, DO watch THE USUAL SUSPECTS, if you get the chance. It's a marvelous film, and even though you're probably well aware of its twist by now, it's still one of the best thrillers of the 90s.

TWIST? Whatever surprises I discover will be new to me, the film has gone unseen by me all these years and I've heard of no 'twists'. So...now I'm really interested!


One of the best! Worth seeing for sure.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I thought the 'twist' in THE USUAL SUSPECTS was as famous as the "I see dead people" twist from THE SIXTH SENSE, but if you've managed to avoid it all these years, all the more power when you see it!

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Best not to Google it then and just watch it! big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

It's funny....I often talk to people who can't watch SEVEN or THE USUAL SUSPECTS or films like that because of what Spacey has done. That's never been an issue to me. I appreciate the art of people who have problematic personal issues. I love Michael Jackson, Roman Polanski, Bernard Herrmann, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Klaus Kinski, Mel Gibson, Jon Voight, you name it. I separate the appreciation of their artistic work from their controversial non-artistic sides.

Please don't include Mr. Herrmann with the rest of these wankers, especially Polanski, Jackson and Kinski.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 7:48 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Never been a fan of Spacey, and that was long, way long, before the unsavory business. However, if he is innocent he shouldn't be made to pay or judged more severely than the rest of those Hollywood wankers. (Yes, I love movies, but I don't hold actors in very high regard, in particular when it come to important issues like science for instance).

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 7:52 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

We've suddenly found ourselves living and breathing in a space that bears no resemblance to our birth places - if you've got as much 'white' hair as I have. JAFO.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

He was supposed to star in the Kenyon Hopkins biopic. Oh well.

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Never heard of him. Was Kevin Spacey a character in the Jetsons?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Never heard of him. Was Kevin Spacey a character in the Jetsons?

Kevin Spaceley of Spaceley's Sprockets.

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2019 - 8:40 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Never heard of him. Was Kevin Spacey a character in the Jetsons?

Keyser Söze . . . in and out of the shadows.

 
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