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 Posted:   Aug 30, 2020 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

Just was in a store (brick and mortar), where I saw a couple of firsts:

Intrada's EXPLORERS for $25
and their NORTH BY NORTHWEST for 100 clams.

No.... way.....


Heh. I was just in that store you speak of and also saw what they had. smile

Greg Espinoza


And IT'S ALIVE for some unspeakable price. Like someone looking in the used bin is going to be jonesin' to drop a C-Note??

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2020 - 1:04 AM   
 By:   csista   (Member)

What is the most money you have paid for a single soundtrack? I think $80 was the most I ever spent.

Titanic 20th Anniversary Edition from La La Land. $50, which was actually retail because it was a huge four disc set. And I paid about $50 on the original CD score for The Outsiders on ebay after attempting for years to get it at a decent price. And then, of course, it gets reissued with a superior deluxe edition a year later.

At this point, that's probably the most I'll spend on a single soundtrack since I already have most of my favorites as expanded editions. There are some I missed out on, like Independence Day, Hook, and Clash Of The Titans, but they aren't worth the current asking price.


 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2020 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   dtw   (Member)

I think I'd only go over about £40 if it was some sort of holy grail, and rarely go to £35 these days.
I paid £89 for a signed John Williams LP ... thought long and hard before doing that.

Somebody let me know when the idiots listing the Deluxe ’Burbs give up and drop their prices, eh? ;-)
(One of these years Varèse are just gonna reissue the damn thing at £18 and then those guys are gonna have egg on their faces...)

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2020 - 5:06 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I recall a seller had a sealed copy of The Dark Crystal up on Ebay for $50 a couple years ago. It was up for about 4 months, never selling, despite being relisted every two weeks. I would have bought it if it was a bit cheaper. I sent a message to the seller if he was open to working with me on the price, given how long it had been listed unsold. He responded. "Sorry. Last one" Shortly after, he raised the price to $129, where it went unsold for over a year.


LMAO! In his delusional mind someone showed "interest" so he thought, I can make even more money off of this CD!

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2020 - 5:11 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I said this story before but back when I was green to the whole specialty soundtrack business (and didn't even know the labels in the game) I purchased an unmentionable two disc set of Superman Returns for around $80 dollars. I also purchased Superman II and III on CD before it was actually officially released. The seller simply sold me the LP programs burnt onto CD. Though he told me they were "complete" at the time. If I can't get close to retail price nowadays for legitimate releases, I do without.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2020 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

I recall a seller had a sealed copy of The Dark Crystal up on Ebay for $50 a couple years ago. It was up for about 4 months, never selling, despite being relisted every two weeks. I would have bought it if it was a bit cheaper. I sent a message to the seller if he was open to working with me on the price, given how long it had been listed unsold. He responded. "Sorry. Last one" Shortly after, he raised the price to $129, where it went unsold for over a year.


LMAO! In his delusional mind someone showed "interest" so he thought, I can make even more money off of this CD!


Seller must be delusional (or some other odd intention), since this was over a year ago and he still has it listed at $129. He just keeps resisting it, over and over.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-CRYSTAL-soundtrack-CD-score-TREVOR-JONES-jim-henson-25TH-ANNIVERSARY-os/293696459157?hash=item4461ac5195:g:s3QAAOSwepZXQ9rI

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2020 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

hey way back when Spacecamp (Japanese CD) was being sold on fsm for $200. I tried to get it lowered but was told that is what they paid for it. So I bought it. Yes you guessed it, Spacecamp was released at $19.95 right afterwards.

I guess I should have been chagrined but you know, I was happy to get it anyway.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2020 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I will not be undersold.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2020 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I recall a seller had a sealed copy of The Dark Crystal up on Ebay for $50 a couple years ago. It was up for about 4 months, never selling, despite being relisted every two weeks. I would have bought it if it was a bit cheaper. I sent a message to the seller if he was open to working with me on the price, given how long it had been listed unsold. He responded. "Sorry. Last one" Shortly after, he raised the price to $129, where it went unsold for over a year.


LMAO! In his delusional mind someone showed "interest" so he thought, I can make even more money off of this CD!


Seller must be delusional (or some other odd intention), since this was over a year ago and he still has it listed at $129. He just keeps resisting it, over and over.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-CRYSTAL-soundtrack-CD-score-TREVOR-JONES-jim-henson-25TH-ANNIVERSARY-os/293696459157?hash=item4461ac5195:g:s3QAAOSwepZXQ9rI


I wonder if these kinds of sellers are retired or do it as a hobby. Thus, the income from selling isn't really important. If it sells one day five years from now for big bucks it's a bonus, if it never sells no harm to them.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2020 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

So, I am trying to figure out why specialty CDs (e.g., Intrada, La-La Land, Varese, etc.) are listed for such absurd prices ($100+) within months after they are out of print.

Simple enough: People sit and wait and expect the material to be available at some later date. Next paycheck, next month, next Christmas... and when they find that its out of print, they "panic" (I'm using the term loosely) and just go looking for it elsewhere.

Its a secondary market less created by the scarcity not of X number of CDs made, but people not getting on the lash when its available for $30, and instead paying 5 times that to get it.

A personal anecdote: Some years back, Intrada put out the Stu Phillips' Battlestar Galactica sets. Volume two came out and sold out really quickly - I want to say in 24 hours but I may be wrong, it was quick in any case. The secondary market immediately went to $100+ the same night (and is now on Ebay for $500+!) on this set. I didn't bother chasing it, the price "locked me out" - but that also meant I didn't buy the other two sets that followed either. So Intrada sort of shot themselves in the foot, in this case - not only did they put out a low number set, but that low number selling out meant I also didn't throw $100 at them for the sets following it.

Of course, its difficult to gauge what will sell and what will not. I don't blame them for making this decision, but it did leave a bad taste in my mouth as well.

At the end of the day, fuck it. It'll be re-released again by some other label I'm sure - and I have the old Supercollector set (and a signed volume one album) until then.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2020 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


A personal anecdote: Some years back, Intrada put out the Stu Phillips' Battlestar Galactica sets. Volume two came out and sold out really quickly - I want to say in 24 hours but I may be wrong, it was quick in any case. The secondary market immediately went to $100+ the same night (and is now on Ebay for $500+!) on this set. I didn't bother chasing it, the price "locked me out" - but that also meant I didn't buy the other two sets that followed either. So Intrada sort of shot themselves in the foot, in this case - not only did they put out a low number set, but that low number selling out meant I also didn't throw $100 at them for the sets following it.


That's what happened with me. I missed out on the first set and just decided to skip on the rest.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2020 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   csista   (Member)

So, I am trying to figure out why specialty CDs (e.g., Intrada, La-La Land, Varese, etc.) are listed for such absurd prices ($100+) within months after they are out of print. Also, why is it so difficult to find so many titles?

Are the pressings so limited (even though a lot of Intrada titles say 'while interest remains)? Supply and demand? I know this interest is a niche market, but it shouldn't be so difficult to acquire a release that numbers in the thousands. I get the impression that folks buying these titles aren't parting with them (at least not for years, if in their lifetime). Anyway, your thoughts?


There are a couple reasons. First it's a very niche market. So pressings will never be high. And because of this, retail is fairly high to begin with, so they begin with a high base price.

Also, the secondary market stock is low. Thankfully it's a collectible market that hasn't been infiltrated with flippers and speculators. And you're dealing with a fanbase that's mostly passionate. Not a lot of casuals buying then regretting. They know they want the score, so they're less likely to part with it later. So when it sells out at the label, you have very limited options for acquiring it, and that's naturally going to drive up price due to basic supply and demand.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2020 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

Just was in a store (brick and mortar), where I saw a couple of firsts:

Intrada's EXPLORERS for $25
and their NORTH BY NORTHWEST for 100 clams.

No.... way.....


Heh. I was just in that store you speak of and also saw what they had. smile

Greg Espinoza


Somebody dropped a c-note and that NxNW is gone and gone: no longer on the shelf.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 12:54 AM   
 By:   SonicLester   (Member)


A personal anecdote: Some years back, Intrada put out the Stu Phillips' Battlestar Galactica sets. Volume two came out and sold out really quickly - I want to say in 24 hours but I may be wrong, it was quick in any case. The secondary market immediately went to $100+ the same night (and is now on Ebay for $500+!) on this set. I didn't bother chasing it, the price "locked me out" - but that also meant I didn't buy the other two sets that followed either. So Intrada sort of shot themselves in the foot, in this case - not only did they put out a low number set, but that low number selling out meant I also didn't throw $100 at them for the sets following it.


That's what happened with me. I missed out on the first set and just decided to skip on the rest.



Yes that's Intrada folks - and with its extra limited run series policy, it's been feeding movie music fans to the
Speculators throughout the world for many years!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Sonic Lester, if you're trying to say that Intrada try and gouge fans, fetching up prices on the secondary market, I have personal experience that proves otherwise.
I missed out on a CD that went OOP and started to get scarce on Discogs/eBay etc.
I took a long shot punt and asked if there were any spare copies of it, and if so, could they add it to a pending order.
I got a quick 'yes, we have one, I can do that' (at retail price) and I didn't have to keep kicking myself for dragging my feet in the first place.
Bruce K at Kritzerland has also done that for me, on CDs that have hit the 'silly prices' market.
So your aspersions are way wide of the mark.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   Dr Smith   (Member)


A personal anecdote: Some years back, Intrada put out the Stu Phillips' Battlestar Galactica sets. Volume two came out and sold out really quickly - I want to say in 24 hours but I may be wrong, it was quick in any case. The secondary market immediately went to $100+ the same night (and is now on Ebay for $500+!) on this set. I didn't bother chasing it, the price "locked me out" - but that also meant I didn't buy the other two sets that followed either. So Intrada sort of shot themselves in the foot, in this case - not only did they put out a low number set, but that low number selling out meant I also didn't throw $100 at them for the sets following it.


That's what happened with me. I missed out on the first set and just decided to skip on the rest.



Yes that's Intrada folks - and with its extra limited run series policy, it's been feeding movie music fans to the
Speculators throughout the world for many years!


Serious collectors buy everything they think they might want, now or in the future, knowing that prices on blue chip soundtracks will only go up.
I would rather that Intrada, LaLaLand, Kritzerland, and the rest of them routinely negotiate for flexible release contracts, that would allow them to order additional quantities of popular releases.
There is no benefit to the listening community to having the prices of relatively obscure titles such as Battlestar Galactica reach stratospheric heights.
Bernard Herrmann At Fox has never returned to a normal price after nearly 10 years.
Please keep issuing them until demand falls.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Just was in a store (brick and mortar), where I saw a couple of firsts:

Intrada's EXPLORERS for $25
and their NORTH BY NORTHWEST for 100 clams.

No.... way.....


Heh. I was just in that store you speak of and also saw what they had. smile

Greg Espinoza


Somebody dropped a c-note and that NxNW is gone and gone: no longer on the shelf.


They also have Intrada's The Black Hole for $100.00

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   Spiderbite   (Member)


There are a couple reasons. First it's a very niche market. So pressings will never be high. And because of this, retail is fairly high to begin with, so they begin with a high base price.

Also, the secondary market stock is low. Thankfully it's a collectible market that hasn't been infiltrated with flippers and speculators. And you're dealing with a fanbase that's mostly passionate. Not a lot of casuals buying then regretting. They know they want the score, so they're less likely to part with it later. So when it sells out at the label, you have very limited options for acquiring it, and that's naturally going to drive up price due to basic supply and demand.



Best, most accurate post in this thread.

My favorite quote from my Dad when as a kid when I used to collect comic books..."Something is only worth as much as someone else will pay for it."

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)


They also have Intrada's The Black Hole for $100.00

Greg Espinoza


E-yack!

 
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