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 Posted:   Jan 6, 2020 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   jlj93byu   (Member)

Here's a demo video of some tracks Brian Ralston put together for Amazon to consider for the upcoming Middle-earth series. While it sounds like they rejected it (based on comments in the thread), it's nice to listen to. Hopefully whoever they select gives us an opulent soundscape rich with flowing themes and majestic melodies. If they could get Howard Shore to at least do the pilot and provide some main themes (which he has indicated he would love to do), I would be ecstatic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j4gadHZiig

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2020 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

He's one of some composers who make original stuff for consideration instead of making a compilation demo of existing works (which isn't necessarily a bad idea -- I'm not knocking it).

He also, as I recall submitted original demos to try and get Whedon's film "Serenity".

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2020 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Xebec   (Member)

It's interesting to hear the composer talk a little bit, and that he can produce such a well-made little video for his bid. Is this what a lot of composers do, produce a video like this? A little promo? The music seemed nice enough, though not really my thing. Maybe he'll get another fantasy project to use it on, if not this.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2020 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Here's a demo video of some tracks Brian Ralston put together for Amazon to consider for the upcoming Middle-earth series. While it sounds like they rejected it (based on comments in the thread), it's nice to listen to. Hopefully whoever they select gives us an opulent soundscape rich with flowing themes and majestic melodies. If they could get Howard Shore to at least do the pilot and provide some main themes (which he has indicated he would love to do), I would be ecstatic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j4gadHZiig


Since this new series isn't supposed to connect up with Peter Jackson's LOTR movies, why would they hire Shore? I love Shore's music for LOTR and Hobbit films, but I just don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he, or his themes, need to be involved. This is separate from Jackson's filmed interpretations, from what I understand, and will be original tales set within an age that predates the LOTR storyline.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2020 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   KeoNato   (Member)

Here's a demo video of some tracks Brian Ralston put together for Amazon to consider for the upcoming Middle-earth series. While it sounds like they rejected it (based on comments in the thread), it's nice to listen to. Hopefully whoever they select gives us an opulent soundscape rich with flowing themes and majestic melodies. If they could get Howard Shore to at least do the pilot and provide some main themes (which he has indicated he would love to do), I would be ecstatic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j4gadHZiig


Am I the only one who thinks the demo is... just fine? It sounds awfully generic.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2020 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

There isn't a new Goldsmith, Williams, Horner out there, but this sounds nice. I personally feel the sound samples are close enough to Howards in style while being its own thing. I'll take this any day over The Mandorlian.

 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2020 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

Here's a demo video of some tracks Brian Ralston put together for Amazon to consider for the upcoming Middle-earth series. While it sounds like they rejected it (based on comments in the thread), it's nice to listen to. Hopefully whoever they select gives us an opulent soundscape rich with flowing themes and majestic melodies. If they could get Howard Shore to at least do the pilot and provide some main themes (which he has indicated he would love to do), I would be ecstatic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j4gadHZiig


Since this new series isn't supposed to connect up with Peter Jackson's LOTR movies, why would they hire Shore? I love Shore's music for LOTR and Hobbit films, but I just don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he, or his themes, need to be involved. This is separate from Jackson's filmed interpretations, from what I understand, and will be original tales set within an age that predates the LOTR storyline.


You assume that he would thematically tie this together with Jackson's LOTR and Hobbit films. He would if that were the direction given him...and I could think of many, many worse things than having Shore create more music similar to the masterpiece he created with LOTR. However, if you were at all familiar with the range and variety of his works - from Eastern Promises to Rosewood to Hugo - you'd also understand that, were he directed to do so, he could create something wholly different and apart from his previous Middle-Earth music.

If only we were so fortunate to have episode after episode of newly scored music by Shore.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   jlj93byu   (Member)



Since this new series isn't supposed to connect up with Peter Jackson's LOTR movies, why would they hire Shore? I love Shore's music for LOTR and Hobbit films, but I just don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he, or his themes, need to be involved. This is separate from Jackson's filmed interpretations, from what I understand, and will be original tales set within an age that predates the LOTR storyline.


Stylistically the indications are that they very much will harmonize with the existing world of Middle-earth as visually created by Peter Jackson. The fact that they are filming in New Zealand and employing many of the same contributors, from Weta to John Howe, indicates as much. Granted, all indications are they will absolutely add their own flavor (obviously, as they are separated by thousands of years), but people I've spoken with have indicated they very much want to make their world harmonize with the one created by Jackson and while it will have very unique flavors from things not shown or barely hinted at in Jackson's world (i.e. seafaring peoples, islands, sea travel), they don't want them to be so distinct that by watching one you would think it completely unrelated to the other. So while they want them to harmonize, they do still want them to be their own unique flavor.

As for the music, I would love to see what Shore could do to perfectly achieve this--unique themes that still have an underlining or otherwise subtle connection to the broader world of Middle-earth. Bottom line, I don't think there's another composer alive right now who better understands the connections that can be made between music in our own world and that of Middle-earth. His devotion to honoring Tolkien in his music, not just writing good movie music, is what makes me hope he has a chance to re-visit Middle-earth. Other composers could write great music for Middle-earth, but none would be as well prepared to do so as is Shore nor do I feel would any have as deep a connection musically to Middle-earth as he does.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I don't think I've ever seen what he looks like before. Reminds me of Alan Tudyk. In fact, if Brian was cast to play Tudyk's brother in some project, I'd buy it.


Anyway, got around to the demo music.
Liked the end of the first demo cue.

Liked the opening of the second.

Don't care for the song.

The action cue at the end just frustrates me. Why can't composers do action anymore? And I of course mean in the general sense -- obviously not all composers have this issue.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2020 - 9:09 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I don't think I've ever seen what he looks like before. Reminds me of Alan Tudyk. In fact, if Brian was cast to play Tudyk's brother in some project, I'd buy it.


Anyway, got around to the demo music.
Liked the end of the first demo cue.

Liked the opening of the second.

Don't care for the song.

The action cue at the end just frustrates me. Why can't composers do action anymore? And I of course mean in the general sense -- obviously not all composers have this issue.


Good "review", that's pretty much my reaction. And yes to the yes, why the hell can't composers do action music anymore!?

 
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