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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      Non-Film Score Discussion: Tim Burton's 'DUMBO', no Oscar love.     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Jan 18, 2020 - 7:02 AM     By:   Montana Dave   (Member) Tim Burton's 'Dumbo', was shown no love by the Academy and I'm a little surprised at this. I don't mean Best Picture or Director or any of the acting, but technically, the film is DAZZLING, at least to me. I enjoyed Danny Elfman's score, but I didn't really expect it to get nominated, he seems to be ignored these days probably because of the amount of his yearly output. However, the superb Production Design by Rick Heinrichs, and the Costume Design by the great Colleen Atwood should have made the list. I never cared much for Disney's original film of Dumbo, which I realize is a 'sacred item' among it's fans. But this new remake, though imperfect, still took me to a wonderful, (and terrible), fantasy world for a couple of hours. I can't ask more for a film than to transport me, however briefly.    Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 6:48 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) I guess literally no one on the planet actually seen the film so can't comment.    Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 10:44 AM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) Perhaps he's considered too much of a novelty film-maker by "serious" Hollywood.    Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 11:23 AM     By:   DOGBELLE   (Member) I thought the film was very anti-Disney. I did not like the movie. I did enjoy Danny DeVito.    Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 11:58 AM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) I really didn't like this film. I found it all rather drab and dreary and depressing. And the long talky scenes between the circus men and the bankers were really boring for the kids. I did love the music though, easily the best thing about this film for me.    Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 2:11 PM     By:   leagolfer   (Member) Negative from me, i won't watch Disney remakes there not on the same-level they never will, i'm not kidding my-self they simply don't feel or look any-value barring the music, i took a punt on that its a great-score that unfolds lovely moods to it, never been that interested with Elfman till recently his scores are starting too rub off on me.    Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 5:06 PM     By:   SBD   (Member) I don't know if anyone has seen the picture of Peter Jackson on the set of The Hobbit looking like his soul was crushed into dust, but after Miss Peregrine and Dumbo, it's hard not to imagine Tim Burton feeling like that. Filmmaking no longer excites him; it's a goddamn job now. The cast was good and the music was (big shocker) terrific, but the script needed a lot of work. (Boy, does that girl love science stuff. Maybe, her knowledge will impact the plot in a way that's both meaningful and exciting...wait, it doesn't? At all? Well, shoot. And what a fortunate coincidence that Dumbo's mother would be at the new circus...the same one as the crew.) Now, I saw worse movies last year, but (as a Burton fan) I couldn't help but feel let down. I sincerely hope that whatever he works on next will re-ignite his love of the craft.    Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 7:00 PM     By:   Ado   (Member) The single worst reboot they have made, close with the bad idea of live action Beauty and the Beast, Disney pillaging the classic catalog has been a real disaster with very few good movies coming from the cash in idea. The original Dumbo is a short and sweet and charming classic, with hardly any humans, and this live action is too long and filled with lots of jabbering people. And it is all greyed out and production designed to the point of extracting any life from it.    Posted:   Jan 20, 2020 - 7:16 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) Really tired of these drab looking films. Some are hits and some bomb. I really couldn't tell you why.    Posted:   Jan 21, 2020 - 10:14 AM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) Why would Disney not simply re-release the classics into theaters once in a while? Apart from the racist crows and the drug scene, "Dumbo" is a great little movie. The movie is already made, so apart from advertising and distribution costs, there is a higher profit margin than making a new version and all the costs that go with it--even taking into account the higher profits that a new movie brings. Hmm. I guess the simple answer is that Disney is so deeply ashamed of their racist past that they hope new versions help wipe it from the public's memory.    Posted:   Jan 21, 2020 - 11:04 AM     By:   Ado   (Member) Why would Disney not simply re-release the classics into theaters once in a while? Apart from the racist crows and the drug scene, "Dumbo" is a great little movie. The movie is already made, so apart from advertising and distribution costs, there is a higher profit margin than making a new version and all the costs that go with it--even taking into account the higher profits that a new movie brings. Hmm. I guess the simple answer is that Disney is so deeply ashamed of their racist past that they hope new versions help wipe it from the public's memory. totally correct, it is a real piece of cinema history, a tremendous piece of art and craft, and those scenes with Dumbo and his mom, so sweet and emotive, it is a remarkably good film, and only a bit longer than an hour at that. Just a really good film.    Posted:   Jan 21, 2020 - 11:47 AM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) Correction (by the way): It's a "drunk" scene, not a drug scene--though the effect was much the same. I don't know why I didn't remember that at first.    Posted:   Jan 21, 2020 - 8:20 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) Why would Disney not simply re-release the classics into theaters once in a while? Apart from the racist crows and the drug scene, "Dumbo" is a great little movie. The movie is already made, so apart from advertising and distribution costs, there is a higher profit margin than making a new version and all the costs that go with it--even taking into account the higher profits that a new movie brings. Hmm. I guess the simple answer is that Disney is so deeply ashamed of their racist past that they hope new versions help wipe it from the public's memory. I don't know if its shame. Does Disney really have any shame? If they had real shame they would bring the animation jobs back to the US and pay them well. They're just playing the WOKE card thinking that's where the majority of their audience is. As someone who grew up in the 60's and 70's I discovered virtually all the Disney classics for the first time on re-release in the theaters. I'm so glad I had that experience. But the fact is, (as much as it breaks my heart) kids today see 2D animation as "old fashion", CGI animated films are where its at. I disagree with this, but it is what it is. So, I don't see re-releasing the animated classics as a profitable proposition for Disney.    Posted:   Jan 21, 2020 - 8:38 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) Correction (by the way): It's a "drunk" scene, not a drug scene--though the effect was much the same. Especially the animators who were surely on drugs when they animated that scene.    Posted:   Jan 21, 2020 - 9:06 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) I don't know if its shame. Does Disney really have any shame? If they had real shame they would bring the animation jobs back to the US and pay them well. They're just playing the WOKE card thinking that's where the majority of their audience is. Yeah, maybe it's not quite "shame". Probably more like "abject fear", in that if SJW's of today see that stuff, then they will storm the House Of Mouse and demand that heads roll.    Posted:   Jan 22, 2020 - 5:53 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) I don't know if its shame. Does Disney really have any shame? If they had real shame they would bring the animation jobs back to the US and pay them well. They're just playing the WOKE card thinking that's where the majority of their audience is. Yeah, maybe it's not quite "shame". Probably more like "abject fear", in that if SJW's of today see that stuff, then they will storm the House Of Mouse and demand that heads roll. Its kinda odd though. They're scared to death to "offend" one portion of the customer base while "spitting in the eye" of the other.    Posted:   Jan 22, 2020 - 7:19 AM     By:   Ado   (Member) all my kids have seen all of the Disney original animated classics many times, we enjoy the whiz bang CG new stuff too, but they know the art of the classics is a very different thing. When I watch something like Dumbo or Sleeping Beauty or Bambi I can feel the artists at work, and those movies make me know the tangible goodness of these films that has lasted through the years.    Posted:   Jan 26, 2020 - 8:36 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) but the script needed a lot of work. (Boy, does that girl love science stuff. Maybe, her knowledge will impact the plot in a way that's both meaningful and exciting...wait, it doesn't? At all? She nailed it.    Posted:   Jan 26, 2020 - 9:20 PM     By:   Octoberman   (Member) I have not seen a Disney movie in ages. I pretty much stopped after "The Lion King". I honestly did not know that things had gotten so bad. Up until now I was content to be bemused by the controversy without having a deeper understanding of the specifics. But after watching the above podcast all I can say is, wow, what a gigantic POS the Disney Company has become. I'll tell you what I did find encouraging, though. The fact that a contemporary woman can see through the brainwashing BS and tell it like it is. That was really nice to see.    Posted:   Jan 26, 2020 - 9:44 PM     By:   Rick15   (Member) I don't know if its shame. Does Disney really have any shame? If they had real shame they would bring the animation jobs back to the US and pay them well. They're just playing the WOKE card thinking that's where the majority of their audience is. Yeah, maybe it's not quite "shame". Probably more like "abject fear", in that if SJW's of today see that stuff, then they will storm the House Of Mouse and demand that heads roll. Its kinda odd though. They're scared to death to "offend" one portion of the customer base while "spitting in the eye" of the other. But don't people look at things and just realise it's a product of that time? That's how things were back then. We don't see it that way way now. Just like the mullet haircut in the 80's     Non-Film Score Discussion: Tim Burton's 'DUMBO', no Oscar love.    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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