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 Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Yes, this will be a rant on Apple products, no big surprise here, although for the most part I've been a happy camper up until now. Now, I'm pretty incensed and need to vent.

So, I had been delaying the IOS 13.3 upgrade on my iPhone for awhile but a few days ago it decided to run on its own overnight. Okay, so I came to accept this, but I found that when plugged into my Mac, the iPhone was no longer recognized by iTunes. I researched online (apparently 13.3 isn't recognized by any iTunes version 12+), wound up updating first to OS El Capitan, still no luck and finally went fully into OS Catalina. I knew that this included Apple Music, but I figured I would embrace the change.

I now find out that Apple Music won't play music stored on your device, whether iPhone or iPod, both of which I have much music stored on that I imported from my giant CD collection, as most of us have here at the FSM board. If the music exists in Apple Music after importing then it plays, but if I plug the iPhone or iPod to the Mac, it shows up in Apple Music but the tracks are a simple list - you can't right-click on them to edit/get info and you can't play any them. This is so unbelievably frustrating, I cannot fathom why Apple would have removed this functionality in migrating over from iTunes.

Are there any plans to restore this functionality? Are there any workarounds to enable this option again in Apple Music? Does anyone here have any thoughts or suggestions?

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

So, you’re trying to play stuff that’s on your phone through Apple Music on your desktop?

I’ve updated my phone to Apple Music, but not my desktop.
I’m able to play ripped music on my phone.

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Apple likes making things worse and more difficult with every "upgrade". The mind boggles.

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2020 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

So, you’re trying to play stuff that’s on your phone through Apple Music on your desktop?

I’ve updated my phone to Apple Music, but not my desktop.
I’m able to play ripped music on my phone.


Yes, I don't keep much music stored specifically on my Mac itself, it's all either on my iPhone, my iPod or one of two external drives. There are times when I've got my iPhone plugged into the Mac to charge up, or I'm working on a new playlist/compilation and I'll play music that's on my iPhone while in iTunes. This can also be the case when I connect my 160GB iPod to the Mac, that I'll play music on it through iTunes. According to research online, this is apparently no longer an option in Apple Music, it only plays music specifically on your Mac or stuff you've bought digitally from Apple.

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2020 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I think -- I only use iTunes on Windows (more and more getting ready to switch to MusicBee) -- that Apple Music is the program for streaming, and iTunes is the store and stored music player, is that not so?

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2020 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Apple likes making things worse and more difficult with every "upgrade". The mind boggles.

Yep! frown

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2020 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

On a related, um, note -- the other night, on a lark I decided to listen to The Black Hole, which I had purchased from iTunes years ago.

I don't keep copies of my iTunes purchases on the computer (though I have them backed-up on a drive) but one can stream the tracks when online.

To my horror, I discovered that the tracks were afflicted with weird phasing / artifacts which rendered them essentially unlistenable. I thought it might be a streaming issue, so I downloaded one track -- but it too suffered from this same problem.

Fortunately I made back-up copies of my iTunes purchases, but in future, I think I'll go with Amazon for downloaded music!

 
 Posted:   Jan 20, 2020 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I think -- I only use iTunes on Windows (more and more getting ready to switch to MusicBee) -- that Apple Music is the program for streaming, and iTunes is the store and stored music player, is that not so?

Sort of yes but once you update iTunes it BECOMES Apple Music and your library is consolidated. Some people have reported losing access to stuff they’ve ripped after the update.

So I’m still using iTunes on my desktop and haven’t “upgraded” to Apple Music yet.

 
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