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 Posted:   Jan 29, 2020 - 4:35 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

$500 dollars, plus an amp? Not to mention the premium prices for vinyl, a medium which will go snap crackle and pop after every turn? Man alive I'll stick with CD's and iTunes!

I picked up a 9 LP box set at a thirft store, a Boston Pops collection, which cost me about $6 (Yellow Tag Discount Day). I swear, it was like nobody ever play these before. Absolutely flawless. Some grabbed some noise here and there, but overall, an amazing discovery. When I was a young un, I didn't propertly care for my records. Obviously CDs and digital files are low maintenance, but a record can stay pretty clean if you care of it and maintain your equipment.

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2020 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Why would it be better than the Technics 1200 for orchestral music?
I think a turntable should do two things: get the music from the vinyl as precise as possible and produce as little mechanical noise as possible, and both things accomplishes the SL 1200 exceptionally well.



Over the years I've read that the Garrards somehow improve on the stereo imaging and "soundscape" (for want of a better word) compared to the same album played on other turntables.
That may be so, but what bothers me a little is that the characteristics that are used to describe those qualities are not scientifically measurable and, as such, may fall under the umbrella of confirmation bias.
That bias goes a long way towards influencing what a person will buy and how much they will spend.
For all I know, it may be true--I've never auditioned a Garrard--but I do know that I won't give up my SL-1200 for anything.

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2020 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I picked up a 9 LP box set at a thirft store, a Boston Pops collection, which cost me about $6 (Yellow Tag Discount Day). I swear, it was like nobody ever play these before. Absolutely flawless. Some grabbed some noise here and there, but overall, an amazing discovery.


Nice.


When I was a young un, I didn't property care for my records. Obviously CDs and digital files are low maintenance, but a record can stay pretty clean if you care of it and maintain your equipment.


I was the opposite. I was so anal about cleaning my records that I did it whether they needed it or not.
Completely neurotic.
I'm better now. LOL

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2020 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   Max Bellochio   (Member)

When I worked at Panasonic's parent company about 25 years ago, the Technics SL-1200MKII was marketed as a "DJ turntable," but had broader applications depending on what kind of cartridge/stylus combination you wanted to use. Radio stations bought these for its quick start capability for rapid music cue-up. The 42-pound base made it highly vibration resistant and rugged for people seeking portability. However it was never sold as an audiophile component - although it would turn up in retailers like The Good Guys and Circuit City on the West Coast and The Wiz in the NYC area.

It had a SLP at about $600 at the retail level and eventually included a cartridge (In the early years these did not have a cartridge/stylus). If you can find one now in working condition, then I'd suggest grabbing one. The only concern is finding a suitable replacement cartridge, but that may not be a problem due to the recent resurgence in vinyl.

Very
MaxB

 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2020 - 7:51 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I picked up a 9 LP box set at a thirft store, a Boston Pops collection, which cost me about $6 (Yellow Tag Discount Day). I swear, it was like nobody ever play these before. Absolutely flawless. Some grabbed some noise here and there, but overall, an amazing discovery.


Nice.


When I was a young un, I didn't property care for my records. Obviously CDs and digital files are low maintenance, but a record can stay pretty clean if you care of it and maintain your equipment.


I was the opposite. I was so anal about cleaning my records that I did it whether they needed it or not.
Completely neurotic.
I'm better now. LOL


Me? I was playing my Star Wars LP while building my X-Wing model kit.
Got enamel paint all over side B.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2020 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)




As a kid I use too DJ on SL1210 - no doubt Technics had solid results in most aspects they played music great for "pop & instrumentals" "rave etc" "r&b & soul" "rap" "very high majority of rock & metal" "synth stuff like JM Jarre." those genres most-part is real lively stuff.

I had some scores back then, i'd say a film/tv score of 50/60% orchestra + synths had real joy, when I played full orchestra say "Williams" the results were decent but inconsistent it was either too bright in places or not precise, listening to classical pieces big 1812 OT weight was virtually pin but instrument imaging was off but it held up ok, that's where Garrard deliver there were much earlier models from the 50s that the BBC used solely those results outweighed most competitors by some distance.

Bottom line, I grew-up an old-school audio-lover i studied which models were the best I own the Garrard 410 - also, Naim cd555 player that needs its power supply 555PS before you can listen, that is 15 years old now its so good that a lot of brands get tested on that player - speakers, amps etc.. they're then reviewed by hi-fi mags.

 
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