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 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Maybe it´s my age - but recently I discover that even those composers whose work I loved before I do not enjoy anymore.

In other words: some composers I just connect with, others have entered phases which leave me uninterested.

Even my screen name, consisting of my favorite composers, does not fully apply to my taste anymore. Case in point: James Newton Howard.

I have to say that the last JNH score I fully enjoyed was THE HAPPENING.

What about you, guys - have you fallen out of love with even your favorite composers´ work?

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

John Williams.
Hasn't done a score I personally enjoyed, since probably the early 2000's, though I've yet to sample every single thing he's done in the last decade.


Thomas Newman
Since I heard him in an interview a few years ago he's moved into a phase where experiments with sound design and musicians improvising, his scores -- for me -- have dropped off the cliff.



Still hanging on, but...

James Newton Howard
Since he said in an interview a few years ago he's not interested in doing the type of score he did on "Wyatt Earp", and wants to do something along the lines of what Thomas Newman is doing, I've found most of his scores in a over a decade to be complete wastes of time (like "Salt", for example).



Alan Silvestri
But not as bad as the others.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

"Don't enjoy anymore" is rather radical. There are composers who haven't "wowed" me in recent years and decades, but "don't enjoy them" is taking it too far.

You mentioned JNH. For many years, I was worried that he had lost form. His last great score was THE VILLAGE, and even though there were individual highlights in certain subsequent scores (KING KONG, MALEFICENT, HUNGER GAMES, NUTCRACKER), no work as a whole wowed me. Untill last year's A HIDDEN LIFE, which was suddenly right there, at the level of THE VILLAGE (and in very much the same idiom). A spectacularly good score that is among his very best.

Same goes for Silvestri too. He hasn't really written a consistent 'wow' score since THE MUMMY RETURNS (arguably THE POLAR EXPRESS), even though several recent scores have had great individual moments.

Same goes for Williams too. Since after 2005, he hasn't really had that consistently great score.

In terms of composers who have fallen COMPLETELY out of favour, I can't really think of any off the top of my head.

Oh, and I completely disagree with Justin regarding Thomas Newman. I think he's as great as ever -- recent scores like TOLKIEN, VICTORIA & ABDUL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, THE SECOND BEST EXOTIC MARIGOLD HOTEL, HE NAMED ME MALALA etc. are all top-notch, as-good-as-it-gets Newman.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Hans Zimmer

Was a huge fan of his works from the mid 80s to the late 90s

Paperhouse, Rain Main, Black Rain, Pacific Heights, Regarding Henry, Thelma and Louise....

Notable exception : Interstellar.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)


Jerry Fielding. Bought a number of his scores 20 years ago but now find a lot of work dull.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

With a few exceptions, the last 20 years of Goldsmith's career don't interest me.

This begs the question: Does this lack of enjoyment extend to the type of films these once-favored composers now score? Do you still like a film but not its score?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

With a few exceptions, the last 20 years of Goldsmith's career don't interest me.

That's funny. With the exception of his 2000s output, 90s Goldsmith if my favourite Goldsmith - ever!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I just remembered a couple of Spaniards/South Americans who were once very promising, with their lush, orchestral style eventually swallowed by boring, contemporary thriller drones -- like Roque Banos, Fernando Velazquez or Federico Jusid.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

I just remembered a couple of Spaniards/South Americans who were once very promising, with their lush, orchestral style eventually swallowed by boring, contemporary thriller drones -- like Roque Banos, Fernando Velazquez or Federico Jusid.

The current direction in film scoring make them "disappear" - so to speak, thanks to the new uncultivated movie executives. And they are not alone.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Alexandre Desplat - at first I was absolutely delighted by his work. Then he scored too many films per year and I got bored by his bag of tricks.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

For myself most composers have a good 10 year run give or take a few years in either direction. There's still good scores within a twenty year time frame. But nothing bests, Empire Strikes Back, Secret of NIMH, Star Trek TMP or WOK.

Best of Williams- 77-87
Best of Goldsmith- 82-92
Best of Horner-82-92
Best of Zimmer- 91-2001

Again there are outliers. Love Jaws, The Rocketeer, Braveheart, Rudy, The Shadow, Real Steel, Alice in Wonderland, among others. Very little is memorable from the 2000's on.

Still enjoying a lot of scores by JNH and Powell.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


Best of Williams- 77-87
Best of Goldsmith- 82-92
Best of Horner-82-92
Best of Zimmer- 91-2001


Best of Williams- 1960-1975
Best of Goldsmith- 1959-1977 or 78.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


Best of Williams- 77-87
Best of Goldsmith- 82-92
Best of Horner-82-92
Best of Zimmer- 91-2001


Best of Williams- 1960-1975
Best of Goldsmith- 1959-1977 or 78.


Saw that coming. We're two predicable birds arent we?!

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

This begs the question: Does this lack of enjoyment extend to the type of films these once-favored composers now score? Do you still like a film but not its score?

Anyone?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Sure, I can still like a film and not the score.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Williams.

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Well, I have to say that when I see that old favourites like Hans Zimmer, James Newton Howard, Thomas Newman and Mark Isham have a new score coming out, I don't exactly run to the music shop anymore. I put on some of their 80s/90s stuff instead.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

Depends. Most composers recent works does not appeal to me. Like some mentioned earlier, I don’t rush out and buy a John Williams or a Danny Elfman anymore. I stick with the favorites. A few that I don’t care to listen to anymore, maybe my tastes changed, Lalo Schifrin, Hans Zimmer Bear McCreary.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Well, I have to say that when I see that old favourites like Hans Zimmer, James Newton Howard, Thomas Newman and Mark Isham have a new score coming out, I don't exactly run to the music shop anymore. I put on some of their 80s/90s stuff instead.

well said

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2020 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Danny Elfman
I forgot about him.
Like Williams, I haven't heard everything he's done in a long while, but the last film score he did that I gave a damn about was probably "Standard Operating Procedure" or "Spider-Man 2"

 
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