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 Posted:   Mar 25, 2020 - 5:38 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I think one of the reasons I've always loved this score and held it in such high regard is that it's like an All-In-One James Horner score.
It contains virtually all of his styles and quirks and steals from around that time, plus some new ones besides.
The yearning, soaring Rocketeer (actually Blue Max) style flying sequences.
The driving, urban, gritty grooves from his police/crime actioners.
The exotic flute interludes that evoke the spiritual wilderness.
The sad, reflective and heartbreaking strings/winds/guitar that always bring a tear to the eye.
The usual borrowings from Gayane Ballet to danger motif and some new Prokofiev borrowings, like when Broderick lets the chimps out late one night to roam around the lab (that's from either Cinderella or Three Oranges) *
That bonkers percussion/rumble music whenever Horner saw monkey's.
Even the weird processed hurdy-gurdy sound that would crop up again in Willow a year later.
But it all hangs together beautifully to me.
I really like the film too.
I remember the film bypassed cinemas in the UK, back when studios were deciding to release some films straight to video, to cut costs. This was one such case.
I remember renting the video and taping the music straight from the telly, via leads, onto cassette. That tape sure got hammered.
Then, Varese released it, in all it's glory, in their CD Club and La La Land recently did a definitive edition, with about 4 extra minutes of music and the Mike M touch.
It will always be a Top 10 Horner score for me.
Thoughts?

*It's Cinderella. Just listen to Act1 Scene 5, The Beggar Woman, about 1 minute in.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2020 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   lars.blondeel   (Member)

It's like a Best of CD from The Eagles, with two new tracks

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2020 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Great review Kev my feelings exactly. Thanks for bumping this thread. I never bought the upgraded version so this reminded me to throw it in the cart! Hoping Lala has something else this month but if so think they would have announced it by now.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2020 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

It's a lovely score and was one of the first scores I really noticed as I started to get into film music as a kid, but personally I wouldn't put it inside my Horner top 10. Kev's right that it's a patchwork of a lot of different Horner modes and motifs, but I think most of them are done better elsewhere. The lilting tenderness and crescendo of COCOON, the folk elements of WILLOW, the soaring flight music of THE ROCKETEER.

That said, "Ghost Call" and especially "Flying" are among Horner's career highlights. Great stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2020 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Thanks for your thoughts.
Keep em coming.
I always get a weird WTF, when the opening cue DOESN'T jump into Shock The Monkey by Peter Gabriel, cos I was so used to it, from my old 'played to death' tape.
Hearing the original, unused second half of the Horner Main Title sounds so...not wrong...just...strange.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 5:11 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Here you go, score fans.
Anyone familiar with this music or film, have a listen, just after the 1 minute mark, to hear how Horner adapted this music to underscore Matt Broderick allowing Virgil the chimp to have some after hours mating time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6_mDg0vc5w

A part of me loves the way Horner did shit like this smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2023 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I had this CD once, the 2001 Varese edition. Didn't care for it much, so I gave it away or sold it, I can't remember. I remember thinking there was a lot of meandering suspense, and too much of Horner's reusage, more Khachaturian and all that. I can perfectly understand that, and some of those sentiments still linger when I listen to it, but I don't really give a flying toss about the borrowings anymore, so I gave the digital version another chance. Well, when whittled down to my current 47 minutes, it works better and doesn't wear out its welcome like the ol' Varese CD did. Again, not a title that will ever become a favourite of mine, but it's more rewarding than I remember.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2023 - 2:26 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I find there's quite a difference between the old Varese CD Club release, mastered by Erick Labson (I would guess), and the LLL re-release, which was worked on by Mike Matessino.
I've never done a full back-to-back comparison, but apart from the different mixing/mastering techniques between the two engineers, it also sounds like different takes were used on each release for certain cues.
It's great to have both editions though and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE this score.
Top 10 Horner for me.

 
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