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 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

What happened with Kritzerland?

He used to regularly bring out great stuff. Then it all just fizzled.

Last great release was the complete PRINCE OF FOXES, but you had to get a multi-CD set if you wanted it.





Since the big funding campaign of a while back, the pendulum seems to have been swinging towards increased numbers of stage and musicals, and fewer soundtracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

These recordings were made in New York?
Were the master tapes stored in NY somewhere for 55/60 years ... or were these archived in CA?


Tapes for both scores can be found in the Waxman estate preserved by the Syracuse University:
https://library.syr.edu/digital/guides/w/waxman_f.htm

So it could be that those were used for the CD.
Or did CBS still have the original tapes?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Out of the blue comes a big surprise from a great film composer,Franz Waxman.
Applause everyone !

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Days when Kritzerland used to release interesting stuff are long gone.
So thanks to DD for doing this one and it was quite an unexpected surprise between all those D-movies.


I hope you guys are just teasing Bruce. Sure, he does show albums, was busy with a book of lyrics, and the dvd of his movie, but last year he released the Gail Kubik suites, The Cardinal, Henry King At Fox, Dementia, House that Dripped Blood....He's said he has a bunch of recordings, so it's just a matter of when he gets to them. Maybe he could post an inventory...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Kritzerland is OK in my book. Bruce gave us Henry King at Fox last year with the music of Alfred Newman. If he can do one similar project each year, that would be wonderful. Thank you for what you have already given us.

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

I wonder if it's possible to buy the download without the CD?

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I wonder if it's possible to buy the download without the CD?

If you look at their website, there's a digital download section, but this isn't on it yet. You should contact them with your question.
You could always split the purchase with someone. I'm going to buy it mainly for the CD, not the download. Or just ask someone for the download links.

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Kritzerland is OK in my book. Bruce gave us Henry King at Fox last year with the music of Alfred Newman. If he can do one similar project each year, that would be wonderful. Thank you for what you have already given us.


You mean bunch of reissues of reissues of reissues?
I'd rather not. Textbook definition of a big whoop.


Compare that thing Kritzerland put out with the recent Steiner box from BYU, Intrada's Waxman set or even LLL's western box set...

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

It's so cool to be surprised by out-of-left-field releases these days!

I do think many of the cd/digital bundles eventually come out also as just digital albums (which is what I want). But this one, who knows? I sure don't want to miss it.

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Very interesting! Waxman is my favourite Golden Ager, and I've always been curious about his documentary scores. Hopefully, they're remastered well. I tend to prefer rerecordings over original recordings when it comes to scores this age.

Considering Waxman's magnum opus Taras Bulba had disappointing sales from Tadlow (took them a while to hit 1000, apparently), I'd say the chances of more Waxman re-recordings are sadly pretty low. frown

That's why I'm so excited and pleasantly surprised to see this! Never thought a Waxman premiere would come from BSX of all places -- wow!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


What a great surprise! It's an instant buy for me! Thanks guys. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 8:25 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

What a great surprise! It's an instant buy for me! Thanks guys. smile

We finally got something to cheer about, PFK. Did you notice the length of those tracks ? Long cues. Nothing like they do today.

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 10:07 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

You mean... combined cues? The tracks are longer because many contain two or three cues in a single track.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2020 - 11:58 PM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

I wonder if it's possible to buy the download without the CD?

If you look at their website, there's a digital download section, but this isn't on it yet. You should contact them with your question.
You could always split the purchase with someone. I'm going to buy it mainly for the CD, not the download. Or just ask someone for the download links.


It's just that I do not want to use shipping departments and delivery services at this point of time - and it is generally not a good idea if you look at what's going on in the world. Maybe this is a matter which shouldn't be discussed on this board, though.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2020 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

You mean... combined cues? The tracks are longer because many contain two or three cues in a single track.

Yavar


TV Scores tend to have shorter cues then features, so that's why we edit them into a single track,

It makes for a vastly superior experience to listen to apart from the program it was composed for as a rule.

The Estate agreed with as well

Ford A Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2020 - 12:39 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

You mean... combined cues? The tracks are longer because many contain two or three cues in a single track.

Yavar


TV Scores tend to have shorter cues then features, so that's why we edit them into a single track,

It makes for a vastly superior experience to listen to apart from the program it was composed for as a rule.

The Estate agreed with as well

Ford A Thaxton


But will this be available digitally?

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2020 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I’ve got no issue with short cues, Ford, and I’m not arguing against combining them, here. I was only pointing out that it’s silly to essentially say, “they sure don’t write long cues like this any more today” when these TV scores aren’t really full of long cues, just longer tracks since cues were obviously combined.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2020 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

You mean... combined cues? The tracks are longer because many contain two or three cues in a single track.

Yavar


TV Scores tend to have shorter cues then features, so that's why we edit them into a single track,

It makes for a vastly superior experience to listen to apart from the program it was composed for as a rule.

The Estate agreed with as well

Ford A Thaxton


If cues are merely combined, the listening experience would be the same as if they were separate. Were these re-arranged for a subjectively "nicer" experience? Or edited/shortened, and/or faded together?

 
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