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 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

usually when played in concert? Is it a funny theme or just a defense mechanism in people to cope with the fact that "Hey here comes the shark that eats people and turns them into bloody pulp."?

Anyway, here is a great Tribute to John Williams by Leonard Slatkin and the United States Marine Band at John Williams' Kennedy Center Honor from years ago.

The JAWS Theme starts playing at the 1:00 mark and the crowd starts to laugh. Very interesting.

Enjoy! It's a truly excellent medley of John Williams Greatest Themes! Bravo Leonard and Orchestra!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkjuP9RrsH8

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Xebec   (Member)

I've seen it played three times, i think, in concert, and it's never gotten a laugh. It's always been stone-cold silence. Must be the context, and what piece preceded it. Also, it's the one piece that's always been awful every time i've heard it played. It's been a short arrangement that just ends up devolving into a messy noise. Absolute crap. It's a shame it's been so bad every single time i've heard it live. I love that score, too.But no one has ever laughed when i've hard it played.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Why care if someone laughs at it? It is only film music, not high art.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Because people recognise it, want to show that they do, and screaming with feigned terror isn’t polite in the concert hall.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   Xebec   (Member)

They're probably tittering because they know the theme from Airplane was also used in a shark film.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Xebec   (Member)

Why care if someone laughs at it? It is only film music, not high art.

Oh, i don't, it's just no one has ever laughed at the concerts i've been at. I noticed, people did exchange wide-eyed looks with a feigned frightened face though and there was a lot of smiling, knowing what's coming up.

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   John Schuermann   (Member)

Because people sometimes laugh out of sheer joy due to their intimate familiarity with the music. I've experienced the same thing - people laughing at the Jaws theme - but I've also heard them laugh when they hear the music from The Pink Panther or James Bond. It's the joy of hearing a recognized and beloved melody and also being reminded of all the social and cultural associations that come with it. Same reason people laugh as soon as the recognize that the Mission Theme is what they hear on NBC news - the joy of recognition and familiarity.

I would be willing to bet almost everyone on the planet has hummed the Jaws theme at some point when seeing some kind of representation of a shark, whether it's just a picture or even in in real life (I've heard people do it when visiting the shark exhibit at the aquarium).

Not to mention all the times someone has hummed it to scare the crap out of their kids. It's kinda the "go to" music in our collective brains for fear, suspense and a sense of threat.

I would be willing to bet it's those kinds of mental associations that bring the laughter.

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

I think it's possibly nervous laughter because a lot of them associate a traumatic moviegoing experience with it.

More likely, I think it's because it's so iconic, so ubiquitous, that it's almost self-parody at this point.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Yeah, whenever I've heard it performed live (many, many times) there's always that ripple of chuckles or 'ooooh, we know what this is' as the opening notes begin.
It's probably a combination of all the reasons noted above, but it does mainly happen for the Jaws theme.
Whereas the Star Wars main title elicits a spontaneous burst of applause.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Short iconic cues become cliches of the genre. Morricone's GoodBadUgly theme is often used to signal a western parody (although the joking reference has been done to death). Someone making a stabbing motion while mimicking PSYCHO's shower strings will get a laugh.

It reminds me of the old radio soap opera organ cue used to signal something incredibly dramatic. It quickly became a joke even back then. Here's an example in "Mary Tyler Moore Show" episode where they used it as a euphemism for discussing sex. It's such a cliche that it breaks the 4th wall with a character. Skip to 16:38 to see how it plays out:

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Thanks for all of your comments. Very cool.

Usually when I see or hear a helicopter in the sky I will immediately hear Jerry Goldsmith's "bum bum bum, bum bum bum bum", his menacing Evil Chopper motif from CAPRICORN ONE. I don't laugh but I'll usually starting singing "bum bum bum, bum bum bum bum, bum bum bum, bum bum bum bum". And people will stare and stare.

Again, I enjoyed your thoughts and comments. Cheers all!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 9:24 PM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

I think it's partly because it's extremely recognizable, partly because it's an unexpected piece to hear since it's a film score and an unconventional one at that, but I think mainly because it is inherently a tongue-in-cheek piece of music. It was brilliantly conceived by Williams as probably one of the most effective motifs in film music for its sheer simplicity, and the initial build up creates a lot of nervous yet playful tension. It represents the killer drive of the shark while also having fun. Remember that Jaws is not a horror movie, it's kind of an adventure/thriller.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 9:54 PM   
 By:   John Smith   (Member)

I’ve heard the Jaws theme performed several times in Europe, with the audience fettered by the usual etiquette of the concert hall. But not in Krakow. After the first two notes of the last performance in the city, the audience burst into rapturous spontaneous applause! The somewhat discombobulated orchestra petered into silence and had to restart shortly afterwards…

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2020 - 11:14 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

I did some stand-up a few years ago and used the Jaws theme as my stage-entrance music. It got the the only laugh of the evening. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2020 - 2:19 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

People are weird.

 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2020 - 2:40 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Another comical cliche is the wicked witch theme from The Wizard of Oz.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2020 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

JAWS, Psycho, The Twilight Zone (Constant), among others...indeed, has everything to do with context on the big or silver screen vs. kitsch down the road. Which I suppose is a tribute, of sorts, to that which evinces successful level of engagement on a widespread scale.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2020 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

...also because it is weird. When Williams played it for Spielberg he actually asked if he was serious. It is less music and more a description of a traveling eating machine. Two notes. It is brilliant but it is not at all anything like what is presented in concert or a movie soundtrack.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2020 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   tranzishun   (Member)

I’ve heard Williams conduct this live a couple times it does seem to
bring about a quiet chuckle. “The mission” theme from nbc nightly news seems to get a similar response.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2020 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I think it has slipped into parady - partially (mainly?) because Hollywood has re-used it so many times for comic effect. But once it moves past those first few notes people realise there's more to it and start taking it more seriously.

In the film, of course, it still works like gangbusters.

 
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