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Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      General Discussion: LIONHEART Schaffner's film, Jerry's Score.    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2       Last Post   Posted:   Apr 16, 2020 - 10:11 PM     By:   Root for the Romans   (Member) Franklin Schaffner was a great director who made some wonderful films, but "LIonheart" isn't one of them. it is, in fact, the most extraordinary mess of a movie, in large part, I think, because it was a vanity project of Jack Schwartzman, then husband of actress (and Francis Coppola's sister) Talia Shire, hence the film's being a "Taliafilm Production," a man who had no business producing movies. As for Goldsmith's score, I think it's one of his weakest (not awful and un-listenable, like, oh, "Mr. Baseball," but it just drones on and on and on, like practically any John Barry score. In that regard, they might just have signed Barry to do it.    Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 4:37 AM     By:   CindyLover   (Member) This was also around the same time that Eric Stoltz was dumped from Back to the Future, right? You have to feel bad for the guy but he clearly was just dead weight where these kind of special genre projects were concerned and seemed to have the unique capacity to almost single-handedly destroy them. As Robert Mitchum once said (not about Stoltz), "He doesn't bring much to the party." I believe he shot his stuff for BACK TO THE FUTURE in 1984 and probably shot LIONHEART in 1985 so yes, pretty close. I think the only thing I actually enjoyed his acting in was MASK. Haven't seen much else that he has done. He does more directing than acting these days.    Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 6:21 AM     By:   TominAtl   (Member) LIONHEART was one of the first CD filmscore's that I bought. I was flabbergasted when I saw it on the shelf at my favorite record store, wondering how in the hell had I never heard of this film, as it was directed by one Schaffner and scored by Goldsmith! Thematically it's one of Jerry's best. Having listened to it innumerable number of times, I envisioned a grand and sweeping epic. When it finally came to VHS I grabbed it and watched it with a friend of mine. What a dude. An absolute dud of a film. Flat, uninspired and unbelievably cheap looking. Jeff Bond hit it on the head in saying Goldsmith as in aspiration rather than what was really on the screen. My only complaint about the score is the performance of the orchestra. Several notes are missed and it seems a bit lazy and uninspired at times. But otherwise, to me, it ranks up there with Goldsmith's best. "King Richard" is one of his greatest cues ever.    Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 9:00 AM     By:   SBD   (Member) Listening to clips on YouTube, it is unfair that there's not a deluxe edition of this available or in the offing.    Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 9:09 AM     By:   Spinmeister   (Member) Listening to clips on YouTube, it is unfair that there's not a deluxe edition of this available or in the offing. I'd rather it was re-recorded and rearranged for orchestra & chorus (meaning: dump the synths).    Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 10:01 AM     By:   SBD   (Member) Listening to clips on YouTube, it is unfair that there's not a deluxe edition of this available or in the offing. I'd rather it was re-recorded and rearranged for orchestra & chorus (meaning: dump the synths). I can't argue too strongly as I feel that the synths of Legend keep it from greatness, but I think Lionheart's fine as is.    Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 10:15 AM     By:   Spinmeister   (Member) Listening to clips on YouTube, it is unfair that there's not a deluxe edition of this available or in the offing. I'd rather it was re-recorded and rearranged for orchestra & chorus (meaning: dump the synths). I can't argue too strongly as I feel that the synths of Legend keep it from greatness, but I think Lionheart's fine as is. I dunno about that … unlike Lionheart wherein they're mostly just subbing and/or doubling, there's some truly evocative use of electronics to elicit mood and atmosphere in Legend.    Posted:   Apr 18, 2020 - 11:27 AM     By:   johnjohnson   (Member) Listening to clips on YouTube, it is unfair that there's not a deluxe edition of this available or in the offing. I believe there is a deluxe edition on iTunes.    Posted:   Nov 23, 2020 - 8:10 PM     By:   funkymonkeyjavajunky   (Member) I love this score. I am holding out hope we get a complete release some day.    Posted:   Nov 24, 2020 - 1:08 AM     By:   SilentWitness   (Member) I love this score. I am holding out hope we get a complete release some day. Varèse's Vol. 1 & 2 already feature the complete score. It would even fit on one CD if the end credits hadn't been repeated. Here's the chronological order: 1. The Ceremony 2. The Castle 3. Bring Him Back 4. Failed Knight 5. The Circus 6. Robert and Blanche 7. The Future (unused) (without end credits of course) 8. Children in Bondage 9. Gates of Paris 10. Paris Underground 11. The Road from Paris 12. The Banner 13. The Dress 14. Mathilda 15. The Plague 16. Forest Hunt 17. The Lake 18. The Wrong Flag 19. Final Fight (unused) 20. King Richard    Posted:   Nov 24, 2020 - 1:30 AM     By:   ROBERT Z   (Member) The most complete edition on one cd: https://www.discogs.com/fr/Jerry-Goldsmith-%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%8F%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88-Lionheart/release/5573001    Posted:   Nov 24, 2020 - 1:42 AM     By:   MusicMad   (Member) I love this score. I am holding out hope we get a complete release some day. The 2 CDs were amongst my earliest purchases (1988) ... in those days I bought very few CDs and it was because I enjoyed Part I so much that I spent limited resources on the second disc. Over time, my love of the score has waned. When I moved over to streaming I combined the two discs so that I had a score which lasted over 83 minutes. I'm not sure whether I played it like this a second time but I found it far too tedious for a single play through. Hence, I've now split the score into its two original sources and find these far more acceptable ... I haven't seen the film so take the music for listening pleasure (or not) rather than as a way of recalling visuals, story, etc. Mitch    Posted:   Jun 1, 2021 - 12:52 AM     By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member) The current, best answer to the question: https://www.varesesarabande.com/products/jerry-goldsmith-lionheart-the-deluxe-edition-2-cd And if you want to hear some samples, the themes, background etc., give this a go: https://www.buzzsprout.com/159614/episodes/8621034    Posted:   Jun 1, 2021 - 10:10 AM     By:   funkymonkeyjavajunky   (Member) The current, best answer to the question: https://www.varesesarabande.com/products/jerry-goldsmith-lionheart-the-deluxe-edition-2-cd And if you want to hear some samples, the themes, background etc., give this a go: https://www.buzzsprout.com/159614/episodes/8621034 Listening to it now. Holy smokes! The score has never sounded this good.     General Discussion: LIONHEART Schaffner's film, Jerry's Score.    << < 1 2  >   Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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