Thanks for posting! Wonderful music, and I have never heard of it before even though I'm an avid fan of the Maestro. Hopefully one of the labels is going to think about it as as well and release it on CD.
By the way: it's nice to see many of his scores released again and again (just this week The Thing) but there are so many unreleased works, old and newer as well that should be come out. Also, some of his scores have just been released on vinyl and never on CD (like The Scarlet and the Black). And I'm also waiting for my personal favourite to come out again remastered and hopefully expanded on CD - La venexiana. A stunningly beautiful score by Morricone, even by his own standards.
Always wondered why no label ever picked it up on LP or CD. Part of it has been explained that there is reused music in the score and only the above 10 minutes is original. Still all the other films scored by Ennio from director Giulio Petroni HAVE been released and a few of those supposedly had little or borrowed music too.
He had researched everywhere for years, but couldn´t find anything at all. Also Morricone himself apparently doesn´t have any master tape copy of this score and even the director of the movie Giulio Petroni (who passed away in 2010) didn´t have any material. So we will probably all wait in vain for any CD release of this score.
I knew Stefan would shed some light on this matter and he did. And indeed, only a miracle would make a release possible.
Onya, don't consider the suite compiled on YouTube as representative of the whole score. The guy who did it concentrated on the most tuneful and romantic passages without dialogue but basing on a CD-r I have containing the whole score as taken from the movie, there's a lot of atmospheric stuff as well, some of which is using weird sounds, arguably electro-acoustic stuff. In the suite, I like very much the second excerpt featuring solo bassoon. Morricone was using this instrument quite often back in those days.
I knew Stefan would shed some light on this matter and he did. And indeed, only a miracle would make a release possible.
Onya, don't consider the suite compiled on YouTube as representative of the whole score. The guy who did it concentrated on the most tuneful and romantic passages without dialogue but basing on a CD-r I have containing the whole score as taken from the movie, there's a lot of atmospheric stuff as well, some of which is using weird sounds, arguably electro-acoustic stuff. In the suite, I like very much the second excerpt featuring solo bassoon. Morricone was using this instrument quite often back in those days.
I listened to the whole score in the meantime and was wrong: there isn't that much electronic stuff (played on a moog synth as the end credits say). But there is more tuneful stuff: a lively march featured twice and mentioned by Steven as well as a nice tune for recorder and guitar, etc And as Eda-88 pointed out, there's also an unreleased version of Le Tellier et Hélène from PEUR SUR LA VILLE.
As a whole, I wouldn't describe it as an essential score within EM's body of work but it's for sure a pity it has never been released and probably never will be.
This was a title ( along with Thrilling from 1965 ) that the late Ivana Mattei had hoped to release on the Cometa label)
I remember that. Which is why I held out on the idea that it might still exist. Cometa seemed to have all kinds of access to scores other labels did not like TRE NEL MILLE, ATTENTI AL BUFFONE and AUTOSTOP ROSSO SANGUE.
This was a title ( along with Thrilling from 1965 ) that the late Ivana Mattei had hoped to release on the Cometa label)
I remember that. Which is why I held out on the idea that it might still exist. Cometa seemed to have all kinds of access to scores other labels did not like TRE NEL MILLE, ATTENTI AL BUFFONE and AUTOSTOP ROSSO SANGUE.
TRE NEL MILLE or ATTENTI AL BUFFONE were owned by Cometa themselves - so it is obvious that there was no problem for them to release these titles on LP or CD. With THRILLING from 1965 it is a bit different as one of the problems is that the score is owned - just like ORCA - by Radiofilmusica/Laurentiis. However, there is also an interesting interview in Italian - just made a few months ago by the Italian website colonnesonore.net - with Radiofilmusica´s former manager and music supervisor Giovanni Cimmino who was also the mastering engineer on many Italian Legend CDs about 10 or 15 years ago. Here it is: https://soundcloud.com/massimo-privitera-901715345/sets/intervista-esclusiva-al-famoso-music-supervisor-giovanni-cimmino-in-tre-parti
At about minute 7 of part 1 of this interview he lets us know in an amusing way what happened with the planned THRILLING release as - probably during the 80s as already then an LP had been planned by Cometa - he had put together the master with all the THRILLING tracks and then personally presented it to Morricone himself. Morricone then said to him: "I did not write this music at all. I don´t know anything about a film called THRILLING." Cimmino tried to explain to Morricone that he had the former contract in his hands and that Morricone did write the score in 1965 even though he maybe couldn´t remember the music. Then Morricone told him: "I don´t want that this music will be released." And so the score was never released on LP or CD.
Thanks. Another one that bit the dust due to Morricone's wishes. But that is so long ago and many things Morricone disapproved of has been released since then. I think he has softened about much of this. So maybe THRILLING but if there are no tapes for LABBRA DI LURIDO BLU', as is DIABOLIK, then nothing is to be said.
Speaking of rare Morricone scores does anyone know if 'Roma come Chicago' is ever likely to be released ?
It´s not very likely nowadays as this score is also owned by the Laurentiis group who are not very cooperative. I would say that at that time in 2010 when Maurizio Buttazzoni still managed the Legend label, really had access to the Laurentiis archives and could therefore for example publish Morricone´s FRAULEIN DOKTOR from the existing tapes at Radiofilmusica, there was quite a good chance that also ROMA COME CHICAGO might be officially released on CD, but after Buttazzoni´s death those chances have become more and more slim. So I wouldn´t get my hopes up too high for any CD release.
Speaking of rare Morricone scores does anyone know if 'Roma come Chicago' is ever likely to be released ?
It´s not very likely nowadays as this score is also owned by the Laurentiis group who are not very cooperative. I would say that at that time in 2010 when Maurizio Buttazzoni still managed the Legend label, really had access to the Laurentiis archives and could therefore for example publish Morricone´s FRAULEIN DOKTOR from the existing tapes at Radiofilmusica, there was quite a good chance that also ROMA COME CHICAGO might be officially released on CD, but after Buttazzoni´s death those chances have become more and more slim. So I wouldn´t get my hopes up too high for any CD release.
I had not known that Ms. Mattei had passed away. I have a few pieces of production music that she had written (sometimes under the name "Teimar"), and they are quite interesting. I have never seen the film "Memoria" that she had scored in 1992 (it's her only IMDB credit for composing), but would love to hear what she had done.
Stefan...thanks for that info concerning Thrilling. We can one day hope to see a proper release. As for the great Roma Come Chicago we have a great sounding “unmentionable” so I’ll keep my fingers crossed about this title also.
