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 Posted:   Jun 5, 2020 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   FilmfanNY   (Member)

I have both the original vinyl record and the FSM cd of Morton Stevens score to 'Hawaii 5-0, but has there ever been any of the additional music for the series released? With composers such as Bruce Broughton, Ernest Gold, Jerrold Immel, Fred Steiner, and Pete Rugolo having contributed to shows, you might think that someone would release some or all of these. Or is there a story behind why this music has never been properly released?

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2020 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

I have both the original vinyl record and the FSM cd of Morton Stevens score to 'Hawaii 5-0, but has there ever been any of the additional music for the series released? With composers such as Bruce Broughton, Ernest Gold, Jerrold Immel, Fred Steiner, and Pete Rugolo having contributed to shows, you might think that someone would release some or all of these. Or is there a story behind why this music has never been properly released?

A lot of the original 1/4" mono masters from the show are at UCLA in the CBS archives, but not well organized...and UCLA can be difficult to work with, and expensive, as they require sound transfers to be done at their archival library specs (requiring extra steps and costs for the engineer).

But the biggest problem at the moment is that in 2015 two of Morton Stevens' heirs sued CBS over the copyright to the 5-0 theme:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/cbs-sued-hawaii-five-o-783275

I was curious what ever happened with that court case, and could not find any entries past November 2015:

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4152704/lisa-stevens-brown-v-cbs-studios-inc/

Still, even if this was settled in CBS' favor, it's the kind of thing that makes executives unilaterally turn down any request for a licensing project involving the composer...as a 5-0 CD project surely would.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2020 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

Hi Lukas,

So long story short, this project is pretty much dead?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2020 - 2:23 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I'd assume it probably won't happen any time soon... if it does.

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2020 - 2:32 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

I wonder if other titles ("I Dream Of Jeannie", "Bewitched") would be options. Full-scale box sets may not attract enough customers, but a compilation (or a few disks) may be worthwhile...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2020 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   JThree   (Member)

I wonder if other titles ("I Dream Of Jeannie", "Bewitched") would be options. Full-scale box sets may not attract enough customers, but a compilation (or a few disks) may be worthwhile...

You know, I would love CD's of I Dream of Jeannie, Get Smart, Gilligan's Island. Their underscore was so fun and recognizable. I would buy them.

--jthree

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2020 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I was curious what ever happened with that court case, and could not find any entries past November 2015:

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4152704/lisa-stevens-brown-v-cbs-studios-inc/

Still, even if this was settled in CBS' favor, it's the kind of thing that makes executives unilaterally turn down any request for a licensing project involving the composer...as a 5-0 CD project surely would.

Lukas



It appears as if the suit was dismissed due to a failure to prosecute by Lisa Stevens Brown. That means that either (1) she decided to unilaterally drop the case, or (2) an out-of-court settlement was reached. In either case, CBS would seem to be in the clear, legally. But, if some settlement was reached, it could mean that any attempt to license the music covered by the suit would necessitate approval from and/or payment to Lisa Stevens Brown.

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2020 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I wonder if other titles ("I Dream Of Jeannie", "Bewitched") would be options. Full-scale box sets may not attract enough customers, but a compilation (or a few disks) may be worthwhile...

You know, I would love CD's of I Dream of Jeannie, Get Smart, Gilligan's Island. Their underscore was so fun and recognizable. I would buy them.

--jthree


The Hugo Montenegro "Jeannie" music is insanely catchy and entertaining. Especially the NASA stuff. Sometimes, they would run like a minute or two of stock footage of rockets and stuff to some really great music. Also, Dr. Bellows had his own theme which was funny on its own.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2020 - 4:39 PM   
 By:   TheIrishman   (Member)

I have both the original vinyl record and the FSM cd of Morton Stevens score to 'Hawaii 5-0, but has there ever been any of the additional music for the series released? With composers such as Bruce Broughton, Ernest Gold, Jerrold Immel, Fred Steiner, and Pete Rugolo having contributed to shows, you might think that someone would release some or all of these. Or is there a story behind why this music has never been properly released?

Richard Shores, Don B. Ray and Robert Drasnin are names that definitely deserve mentioning here!

As for the legal situation: As much as I admire Morton Stevens music, given the fact that it (well, some of it) is already available on CD, wouldn't it make sense to issue a non-Stevens CD, to avoid any legal pitfalls?

Perhaps together with some other TV show to increase attractiveness to a wider audience? Like Streets of San Francisco?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2020 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   TheIrishman   (Member)

How about some favourite episodes?

I would mention:
Forty Feet High and it kills! (Shores)
Tenthousand Diamonds and a Heart (Ray)
We hang our own (Shores)
The plantation murders/A killer grows wings (Immel)

and - of course - Hookman (Stevens)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2020 - 6:21 PM   
 By:   jmarc   (Member)

There’s this epic closing music that was used pretty often in the first season. It’s at the end of the 1st season episode “Deathwatch”. It one of my favorite pieces of music from the early seasons.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2020 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   JThree   (Member)

I wonder if other titles ("I Dream Of Jeannie", "Bewitched") would be options. Full-scale box sets may not attract enough customers, but a compilation (or a few disks) may be worthwhile...

You know, I would love CD's of I Dream of Jeannie, Get Smart, Gilligan's Island. Their underscore was so fun and recognizable. I would buy them.

--jthree


The Hugo Montenegro "Jeannie" music is insanely catchy and entertaining. Especially the NASA stuff. Sometimes, they would run like a minute or two of stock footage of rockets and stuff to some really great music. Also, Dr. Bellows had his own theme which was funny on its own.


there were times when they would slow down the Jeannie theme for a somewhat tender moment, and speed it up for happier times. The Jeannie theme really was versatile.
--jthree

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2020 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   mistermike   (Member)

Don Ray, music supervisor for H50, who was credited with about 30% of the scores, released an LP record which contained 16 tracks from the show. The total time of these was just over 20 minutes, so I think there may have been some other material by him on this record as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2020 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   FilmfanNY   (Member)

Don Ray, music supervisor for H50, who was credited with about 30% of the scores, released an LP record which contained 16 tracks from the show. The total time of these was just over 20 minutes, so I think there may have been some other material by him on this record as well.

Is there anymore info on this LP? When was it released?

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2020 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   mistermike   (Member)

Is there anymore info on this LP? When was it released?

"No idea" to both of your questions...

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2020 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   mistermike   (Member)

I found the following stuff of interest when snooping around the Library of Congress...

Jazz on the screen: a jazz and blues filmography by David Meeker
https://www.loc.gov/item/ihas.200028021/
(leads to this: )
http://memory.loc.gov/diglib/ihas/html/jots/jazzscreen-home.html

and

https://www.loc.gov/item/jots.200016017/
Information about H50.

It suggests that Broughton was music supervisor along with Don Ray, but this does not jibe with info at IMDb.

It also IDs two musicians who had speaking parts in S03E02, Trouble In Mind, which featured vocalist Nancy Wilson: Trummy Young (trombonist) and Red Callender (double bass).

There is further information about musicians who were connected with the H50 soundtrack (I don't know if this specifically relates to Trouble In Mind):

Music Arranged by: Sammy Nestico

Soundtrack Personnel: Inc: Bobby Shew, Bob Findley, trumpet; Alan Kaplan, trombone; Vince DeRosa, Brian O'Connor, French horn; Terry Harrington, sax; Gene Cipriano,woodwinds; Howard Roberts, guitar; Max Bennett, acoustic double bass; Carol Kaye, electric bass; Chuck Rainey, acoustic double bass; John Guerin, drums; Larry Bunker, Emil Richards, Joe Porcaro, percussion.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2020 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

There’s this epic closing music that was used pretty often in the first season. It’s at the end of the 1st season episode “Deathwatch”. It one of my favorite pieces of music from the early seasons.

There's this one awesome version of the end titles, I think it's at the end of Nine Dragons, and it's the only time it was used. A huge explosive intro leading into the drums. Great stuff.

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2020 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

There’s this epic closing music that was used pretty often in the first season. It’s at the end of the 1st season episode “Deathwatch”. It one of my favorite pieces of music from the early seasons.

There's this one awesome version of the end titles, I think it's at the end of Nine Dragons, and it's the only time it was used. A huge explosive intro leading into the drums. Great stuff.



Yes, Mort added this “intro” which actually leads into the ninth season MAIN TITLES as a way to be able to show all of the production and cast credits since this was shown as a two-hour season opener back in 1976.

I know - SO COOL!:-)

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2020 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   HAL 9000   (Member)

I have the Don B Ray promo LP, there is no date on the label - its a sleeveless LP with just the inner protective sleeve I estimate the music selection to be around circa 1969/1970/1971, There is not much other information apart from the fact its stamped CBS Productions.

The LP features a number of recycled cues used throughout the series.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2020 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   Max Bellochio   (Member)

I have the Don B Ray promo LP, there is no date on the label - its a sleeveless LP with just the inner protective sleeve I estimate the music selection to be around circa 1969/1970/1971, There is not much other information apart from the fact its stamped CBS Productions.

The LP features a number of recycled cues used throughout the series.


Any Cue titles?

Very
MaxB

 
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