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 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Roger Feigelson writes:

A 2-CD set!



http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8493

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)



Wow! This is a favorite Friedhofer score of mine! Thanks Intrada! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

WONDERFUL ! A Hugo Friedhofer gem. So many great scores composed by this man.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

A real gem. Will be replacing the one I have. Never thought this would see the light of day.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Oh awesome!

For Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea fans, much of this was used wholesale in the TV series. Also on Time Tunnel.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   jeff1   (Member)

Great! The original album was a nice highlights presentation (which I assume will be preserved on the 2nd disc), but that Twilight Time isolated score from a few years back sounds sooooo much better.

I think we heard at the time that this title would be cost prohibitive due to the licensing cost from Decca. Vey glad Intrada were able to make it happen. Now everyone just needs to buy it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I think it's because of this score that Brando asked Friedhofer to score One-Eyed Jacks.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

I think it's because of this score that Brando asked Friedhofer to score One-Eyed Jacks.

That is correct.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Can I ask this, sarcasm & snark aside?

That HF Varese set was my intro to this wonderful composer.
Is the Decca album a re-record?

Highlights - is there substantial interesting material missing?

I'm in regardless, not asking for uber-detailed analysis...just basics, please!

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 4:07 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Another Fox title...

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Oh awesome!

For Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea fans, much of this was used wholesale in the TV series. Also on Time Tunnel.


That's interesting. So should I pass on this and just get Voyage? wink

Didn't know there was more music than the Varese release, assuming this isn't just a reissue of that. It was 2-cd, too.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Oh awesome!

For Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea fans, much of this was used wholesale in the TV series. Also on Time Tunnel.


That's interesting. So should I pass on this and just get Voyage? wink

Didn't know there was more music than the Varese release, assuming this isn't just a reissue of that.


Considering that this is a 2-CD release, I highly doubt that this is a straight reissue of the Varese.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Oh awesome!

For Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea fans, much of this was used wholesale in the TV series. Also on Time Tunnel.


That's interesting. So should I pass on this and just get Voyage? wink

Didn't know there was more music than the Varese release, assuming this isn't just a reissue of that.


Considering that this is a 2-CD release, I highly doubt that this is a straight reissue of the Varese.


It was also 2-cd, with a different score on the 2nd disc which isn't mentioned on the cover. Since they have similar cover art (maybe the word "album" is the telltale difference), a reissue is an obvious question. And stupider questions have been asked on FSM.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   jeff1   (Member)

Can I ask this, sarcasm & snark aside?

That HF Varese set was my intro to this wonderful composer.
Is the Decca album a re-record?

Highlights - is there substantial interesting material missing?

I'm in regardless, not asking for uber-detailed analysis...just basics, please!


The Decca album is the original soundtrack recording. Most of the tracks are cues that are either trimmed or combined. There's about 25 minutes of music in the film that are not represented, some of it source music. Who knows what else might have been dropped completely.

This is a breakdown of the Twilight Time isolated score track rip I made (track titles my own):

0:00:00 - 0:00:20 20th Century Fox / CinemaScope Fanfare (0:20)
0:00:20 - 0:02:20 Main Title / Ski Run (2:00)
0:02:20 - 0:03:45 Ski Source #1 * (1:25)
0:03:45 - 0:04:22 Ski Source #2 * (0:37)
0:04:22 - 0:05:32 Party Source #1 - The Blue Danube Waltz * (1:10)
0:05:40 - 0:05:48 Party Source #2 * (0:08)
0:06:10 - 0:07:25 Party Source #3 * (1:15)
0:07:30 - 0:10:08 Party Source #4 * (2:38)
0:10:30 - 0:11:10 Party Source #5 - Das Deutschlandlied * (0:40)
0:11:10 - 0:12:00 Paris Invasion * (0:50)
0:17:00 - 0:17:26 Surrender * (0:26)
0:30:30 - 0:36:45 Michael & Margaret / Hope & Noah ** (6:15)
0:41:30 - 0:44:25 Christian & Francoise (2:55)
0:46:45 - 0:48:26 Church Source * (1:41)
0:48:45 - 0:49:17 Father's Blessing / Police Work * (0:32)
0:58:20 - 1:01:10 Gretchen Returns * (1:50)
1:01:15 - 1:03:20 The Captain's Lady (2:05)
1:03:20 - 1:06:03 Michael's Theme (2:43)
1:06:39 - 1:10:40 Noah's Farewell / North African Episode ** (4:01)
1:13:07 - 1:16:09 Shoot Him / The Barracks ** (3:02)
1:36:40 - 1:38:10 Battle Montage * (1:30)
1:40:28 - 1:41:10 Motorcycle Crash / Visiting * (0:42)
1:47:05 - 1:48:21 Noah's Return * (1:16)
1:53:41 - 1:56:02 Berlin Aftermath (2:21)
1:58:48 - 1:59:30 Rejection / Reunited (0:42)
2:01:57 - 2:03:22 Parisian Interlude (1:25)
2:05:12 - 2:09:10 Christian's Decision (3:58)
2:14:02 - 2:16:19 A Letter From Noah (2:17)
2:19:50 - 2:22:48 River Crossing (2:58)
2:27:51 - 2:30:37 River Rescue * (2:46)
2:31:18 - 2:32:39 Concentration Camp * (1:21)
2:36:16 - 2:37:57 Christian Leaves / Camp Liberation * (1:41)
2:43:00 - 2:47:21 Death Of Christian / End Title (4:21)

Total time: 1:03:51

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm in regardless, not asking for uber-detailed analysis...just basics, please!

The Decca album is the original soundtrack recording. Most of the tracks are cues that are either trimmed or combined. There's about 25 minutes of music in the film that are not represented, some of it source music. Who knows what else might have been dropped completely.

This is a breakdown of the Twilight Time isolated score track rip I made (track titles my own):

0:00:00 - 0:00:20 20th Century Fox / CinemaScope Fanfare (0:20)
0:00:20 - 0:02:20 Main Title / Ski Run (2:00)
0:02:20 - 0:03:45 Ski Source #1 * (1:25)
0:03:45 - 0:04:22 Ski Source #2 * (0:37)
.....


Now if I had posted the unasked-for uber-details, my post would get reported.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Oh awesome!

For Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea fans, much of this was used wholesale in the TV series. Also on Time Tunnel.


That's interesting. So should I pass on this and just get Voyage? wink

Didn't know there was more music than the Varese release, assuming this isn't just a reissue of that.


Considering that this is a 2-CD release, I highly doubt that this is a straight reissue of the Varese.


It was also 2-cd, with a different score on the 2nd disc which isn't mentioned on the cover. Since they have the same cover art, a reissue is an obvious question. And stupider questions have been asked on FSM.



Upon looking this up at Soundtrack Collector, that 2nd Disc apparently contained another Friedhofer score entitled This Earth is Mine (why it wasn't promoted on the cover is beyond me). Since Intrada usually includes a second piece of cover art when releasing two scores in one album (as was the case with their recent release of The Collector and David and lisa), I doubt we'll be seeing that second score on this release.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Upon looking this up at Soundtrack Collector, that 2nd Disc apparently contained another Friedhofer score entitled This Earth is Mine (why it wasn't promoted on the cover is beyond me). Since Intrada usually includes a second piece of cover art when releasing two scores in one album (as was the case with their recent release of The Collector and David and lisa), I doubt we'll be seeing that second score on this release.

Dammit, you keep quoting me while I'm editing. wink
There is a telltale difference in the cover text - album versus original soundtrack.
I never assume what a label means or does based on limited facts and wishful thinking. In this case, if the album is a truncated version of the original recording, it doesn't seem to be necessary. It's not like a re-recording which might have significant differences.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Thank you jeff1 & no thanks to Last Child for carrying the Bruce Marshall useless torch of idiocracy.

That is what I was looking for.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Thank you jeff1 & no thanks to Last Child for carrying the Bruce Marshall useless torch of idiocracy.

That is what I was looking for.


Really? But his post IS uber-detailed. I thought you just wanted a yes/no reply, or the missing runtime total. Whatever.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2020 - 7:55 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Excellent. The sound of the Varese was a bit bland and diffuse, so I'd expect the new Intrada to offer a very worthwhile sonic improvement, as well as more music.
The score that was also on the Varese set, "This Earth is Mine!" is also very good, and much deserves a sound upgrade too. But I suppose that will be unlikely unless it is part of a package, as it was with the 2CD Varese. Somehow, I can't see "This Earth is Mine!" being re-released on its own.

 
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