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 Posted:   Aug 1, 2020 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Wilfred Josephs' name keeps appearing on the Dan Hollis cues site for a piece called "Six Undertones". It's apparently in dozens of episodes. Now, I don't know much about Wilfred Josephs' life or career, but what I do know doesn't really coincide timewise or continent-wise . How did his music end up in The Twilight Zone?


Since you want "MORE!", GW, here 'tis:

https://us.7digital.com/artist/various-artists/release/a-night-at-the-b-movies-music-from-the-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-plan-9-from-outer-space-9737478?f=20%2C19%2C12%2C16%2C17%2C9%2C2



This download album contains 64 (!) cues of library stock music intended for use in Plan 9 from Outer Space (I guess).
You can look (& touch), Graham - no purchase necessary. smile Sample track #s 53 through 58. These 6 pieces might well be the same 6 referred to within that Dan Hollis site you mention. If so, then Wilfred Josephs (not unlike Marius Constant) was probably commissioned to write for a stock music library to be utilized in the states for movies & TV.
Recall that during late 1957 and early 1958, there was American Musicians' Unions strike(s?) and music directors travelled to Mexico, England, France & Germany to record music for the U.S. industries.

If you are unable to view the site I posted due to territorial regulations, then I paste these 6 Josephs tracks' info below for your insomniac edification:

53 Time To Kill
by Wilfred Josephs
0:51

54 Uneasy Feeling
by Wilfred Josephs
1:12

55 Lead Into Danger
by Wilfred Josephs
0:59

56 Clocks
by Wilfred Josephs
1:01

57 Apparitions
by Wilfred Josephs
0:56

58 Horror Upon Horror
by Wilfred Josephs
1:01

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2020 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

David - Regarding the cue "Heartbreak" which came up in our discussion outwith "The Jeopardy Room", I went back and heard it in the context of the most recent TZ's I'd seen (as I'm watching them chronologically). I did hear it clearly in some of the episodes you cited (the most "recent" ones for me are the only ones I checked), but the visuals didn't match my memory of what had been so affecting about it. Anyway, it's good to know that it was in at least five TZs, so I had indeed heard it before, even if it only really registered once.

Howard L - You mention that "Silent Flight" (which IS heard in "The Jeopardy Room" - just to get back to on-topic for the time being) had been indelibly stamped into your mind through its use in TZ, and how THE LOST WEEKEND was also so indelibly stamped in your head that you couldn't relate the two pieces musically. I can understand that. Neither piece was so indelibly stamped into MY head that I would have an opinion either way! So when I thought "Leith Stevens", and then SPELLBOUND was suggested in the Odyssey, I went for that connection. That's the thing with being so familiar with stuff. One relates it to one thing, another person relates it to another, and if you haven't got anything to relate it to you just take it at face value. If there's one thing this delving into the old Zones has taught me - plus reading up on them and listening to the Odyssey - it's that the more I seem to learn, the less I seem to know. I know I'm paraphrasing something there, but I'm increasingly aware of how much I'm just scartching the surface with everything. By the way Howard, I shall peruse that old thread you linked to over the next few days.

jkannry - There actually was a joke made on one of the recent (from 2018!) podcasts I heard about somebody just wanting to listen to whatever piece of music forever. Hell's Bells! "It was a good Hell!"

Zardoz- Thanks for that link to the PLAN 9 music. I listened to the Wilfred Josephs pieces and couldn't positively identify them as being used in The Twilight Zone. If Howard L or someone can listen to the extracts, he might be able to say yea or neigh (if he's a horse) as to whether or not they constitute the "Six Undertones" constantly referenced as stock music in many episodes. I have an old print copy of FSM which has an article about the music in PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE, but it's a black and white issue and thus from before the invention of "The Computer", so some of the details might be wrong. I'd have a look for it, but I really need to lie down for a bit. These 24-hour sessions are killing me. Interestingly, although it's part of "The Computer", the imdb is sometimes wrong too. For PLAN 9 it lists four composers of stock music (plus "music supervisor" Gordon Zahler), but no mention of Josephs. Soundtrackcollector lists a release with no fewer than ten composers, but again no Josephs. It is most perplexing.

Anyway, I think I have to stop for a rest. My eyeballs have turned into fried eggs. No, literally. I mean literally.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2020 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Quite a challenge w/o listening to those extracts, but am 99% certain nothing from Plan 9 carried over to the Zone. What I recall is that some of it had hit The Adventures of Superman years earlier in the 1st season and possibly the 2nd. And then a familiar cue or two from that series would make it into The Honeymooners a short time later!
[Crazy thing to have such a sensitive film music ear as a youngster. roll eyes]

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2020 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

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Zardoz- Thanks for that link to the PLAN 9 music. I listened to the Wilfred Josephs pieces and couldn't positively identify them as being used in The Twilight Zone. If Howard L or someone can listen to the extracts, he might be able to say yea or neigh (if he's a horse) as to whether or not they constitute the "Six Undertones" constantly referenced as stock music in many episodes. I have an old print copy of FSM which has an article about the music in PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE, but it's a black and white issue and thus from before the invention of "The Computer", so some of the details might be wrong. I'd have a look for it, but I really need to lie down for a bit. These 24-hour sessions are killing me. Interestingly, although it's part of "The Computer", the imdb is sometimes wrong too. For PLAN 9 it lists four composers of stock music (plus "music supervisor" Gordon Zahler), but no mention of Josephs. Soundtrackcollector lists a release with no fewer than ten composers, but again no Josephs. It is most perplexing.


My guesses are at this juncture, Graham, that Josephs initially wrote 6 pieces for a library (now held by JW Media Music) and that Ed Wood's editors selected cues from this library for the flick and none of this music by Josephs was used in the picture but remain as part of the library.

The 'other' 6 cues written by Josephs for the CBS stock music library are different than the 6 available for download.
My guesses here are that Lud Gluskin (in 1961?) went to Europe to record further music for CBS and commissioned Josephs to provide those 6 undertones: Fantasies, Ostinato, Dreams, Mausoleum, Safecracker & Lone Vigil.
You can view these titles online on page 78 of the below PDF file, within Box 10 "Foreign" (#s 833 through 838).

https://filmscorerundowns.net/other/cbs-cue-system.pdf

I posted this link before in your thread regarding the Goldsmith music heard in "Queen of the Nile".
Notice also on this page 78 that 3 cues are by Johnny Dankworth! And - like Josephs - Bruce Campbell wrote for both JW Media Music and CBS.
We can only hope this information is reliable, because whoever compiled the data repeatedly refers to Mr. Constant as "Maurice" instead of "Marius". smile

[Box # 10] Foreign Library: folders 801-850 77

-#802 "Serene Siren" Green, B. [jazzy piece, Sax, brass]
-#804 "Hot Water" [:07] Reel 52D-One
-#807 "Cool Girl With Flaxen Hair" Green, B. [4:26] "Soft relaxed blues bg." EZQ 144 Side 1.
-#808 "Scurry" [:11]
-#809-A "Irritated" [:07]
-#811-A "Etrange I" Constant, Maurice [:16] "Staccato, bizarre, agitated fragment." EZQ 127 Side 2, Track #45.
-#811-16-B Constant, Maurice "Milieu #2" Note: This music is the second part of the famous Twilight Zone Theme. CBS 11-10-811-16B.
-#811-16-B "Finale" Constant, Maurice CBS 11-46
-#811-16-C "Finale" Constant, Maurice CBS 11-46
-#812-A "Etrange II" Constant, Maurice [:15] EZQ 127 Side 2, Track #46.
-#813-A "Etrange III" Constant, Maurice Note: This music starts off the famous Twilight Zone Theme. CBS 11-58-813-A.

-#814-A "Etrange IV" Constant, Maurice [:13] "Bizarre agitated fragment to bongo tail." EZQ 127 Side 2, Track #47.
-#815-A "Etrange V" " Constant, Maurice [:12] "Muscular bizarre bridge to tail" EZQ 127 Side 2, Track #48.
-#816-A "Etrange VI" " Constant, Maurice [:15] EZQ 127 Side 2, Track #49. 78
-#817 "Nero Wolfe" CBS 11-42-E North, Alex
-#821 "Haunted" Tommy Morgan [various guitar & harmonica A thru F] EZQ 106 Side 2.
-#822 "Matthew's Moan" Dankworth, J. [3:52] "Very cool big band fox-trot." EZQ 112 Side 1.
-#823 "Mark's Meander" Dankworth, J. [3:34] "Very cool relaxed fox-trot." EZQ 112 Side 1.
-#824 "John's Jump" Dankworth, J. [4:00] "Up tempo jazz; big band sound." EZQ 112 Side 1.
-#825 "A Country Lane" Campbell, Bruce CBS 12-54
-#825-D "Pensive To Query" Campbell, Bruce -#826-A "Light Active Agitato" Campbell, Bruce CBS 12-54
-#826-D "Neutral Now Active" Campbell, Bruce CBS XII-54 -"Lingering Mists" CBS 12-52 Campbell, Bruce
-#833 "Fantasies" [2:11] "Soft legato unworldly bg." EZQ 151 Side 2, Track #40. CBS XII-66-D [2:11] Josephs, Wilfred
-#834 "Ostinato" Josephs, Wilfred [1:12] "Ominous deliberate motion becomes increasingly bizarre." EZQ 151 Side 2, Track #42.
-#835 "Dreams" Josephs, Wilfred [:20] "Soft dream fantasy fragment." EZQ 151 Side 2, Track #44. EZQ 134 Side 2, Track #64.
-#836 "Mausoleum" Josephs, Wilfred
-#837 "Safecracker" Josephs, Wilfred CBS 12-52-D
-#838 "Lone Vigil" Josephs, Wilfred
-#843 "Semper Fidelis March" John Philip Sousa Part I [:10] "Intro only, full band." EZQ 132 Side 2, Track #1. Part II [1:10] is Track # 2; Part 4 [:32] is Track # 3; Pt 5 [:32] is Track #4.
-#846 "Sobre Las Olas-Valse Juventino Rosas "Well known waltz arranged for band; concert-in-park tempo."
-#848 "Corrida a Sevilla-Paso Doble" Jeanjean [:25] Soft lyric trumpet solo over sustained band; Spanish in flavor."
-#849 "Almeria-Paso Doble" [2:31] Jeanjean
-#850 “F-Story 1” Constant, Maurice [:55] "Soft unworldly bg to agitato to soft unworldly bg." CBS 7-66. Note: Reel 51 is "Space-Fantasy." EZQ 151 Side 1, Track #23. [Box 10]
-#850-A “F-Story 1” Constant, Maurice [:34] "Soft unworldly strings to dark moment." ." EZQ 151 Side 1, Track #24.
-#850-C "F-Story 1" Constant, Maurice [:05] "String tremolo flareout." EZQ 151 Side 1, Track #25. EZQ 151 Side 1, Track #25.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 3, 2020 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Thanks for that link, Zardoz. I hadn't seen it before, despite your having posted it before on the thread I started about "Queen of the Nile". That's Bill Wrobel's research, isn't it? I'm sure Yavar and the Odyssey guys are familiar with it. Anyway, it's a great resource, but so lengthy and complicated that I'd need Sherlock Holmes' brain to work it all out. Fascinating links to actual partitures, hand-written notes et etc. But after twenty minutes my tired eyes clouded over and my head started to hurt, then it exploded.

I'm guessing that the repeated misspelling of Marius Constant's name was on the original paperwork and just copied by Bill Wrobel (?) for the sake of authenticity. The original papers, or the "copies" of them also have "Amphiteatrof" listed, although both composers names are spelled correctly later in the many additional notes. The world of libray music is vast and complex. I think I mentioned this earlier, but it's a wake-up to reality to discover, in my dotage, that I don't really know anything about anything.

Before "The Computer" was invented in 1997, if I'd been on a game show and had been asked, "Which composer's music was NOT used in The Twilight Zone, Lalo Schifrin's or Wilfred Josephs'?", I'd have bet a billion dollars on Wilfred Josephs. His name sticks out like a sore thumb. So British, so small-scale, so TV, so dentistry.

 
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