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FAME was really the one "score" that should not have been nominated, much less won. ALL the others would have been fine. Take away all the songs from FAME, and what are you left with? There is hardly any underscore in FAME at all, and what is there is hardly Academy Award worthy. That was really ludicrous. Songs, yes, sure, and Michael Gore scored other films where a nomination or win would have been perfectly fine, like TERMS OF ENDEARMENT, for example. But not FAME!
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only if you believe the oscars are that important. actually the nominations are more important since they come from votes of fellow composers.
But I love Empire which is one of my favorite Williams (or anyone else for that matter).
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My choice wasn't nominated: Somewhere in Time.
I also love Tess, Altered States, and The Elephant Man.
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What would be your choice for Best Original Score that year?
Altered States, by far. Then Tess. TESB is a really impressive score, but it isn't among my better-liked Williams scores.
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Any.
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1. Altered States
2. Tess
3. The Empire Strikes Back
4. The Elephant Man
5. Fame
"Out Here On My Own" from Fame for Best Song.
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Fame is a worthy Oscar winner for best song but its score nomination should have gone to John Barry for Somewhere in Time.
The other four scores are really good choices by the music branch. I would rate them like this:
1) The Elephant Man
2) The Empire Strikes Back
3) Altered States
4) Tess
Both The Elephant Man and Somewhere in Time are on my personal list of the 10 best scores ever written. 1980 was a good year for film scores.
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Sep 13, 2020 - 1:32 PM
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DS
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My post from last year on the other thread, which I believe raises a very interesting (and as yet unanswered) question about what happened here:
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I've been curious about "Fame" for many years, chiefly because of it's Best Original Score Oscar win in a year it competed against "The Empire Strikes Back," "Tess," "Altered States," and "The Elephant Man."
For the longest time - and I don't even remember what my source was for this - it was my understanding that Michael Gore's score for "Fame" was around 15 minutes long and consisted of brief cues that were based on the original songs. So imagine my surprise when I finally sat down and watched this film a few days ago and... there actually isn't any score in "Fame" at all. Not one single cue. Nothing. The closest the soundtrack gets to a film score cue is a scene early on when the students are all jamming with their instruments in the lunch room, but that wasn't really a cue (though I'm guessing it was composed specifically for the scene?) and it also included vocals from Irene Cara, so even that was really more of a song. The rest of the music in "Fame" is either classical source or songs (most of them written for the film, though Hamlisch's "The Way We Were" pops up too). "Fame" doesn't have a score. And yet, it won for Best Original Score.
Does anybody know how this happened?
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that the Academy changed/bent their rules that year in order to be able to define a group of original songs as an Original Score, but that's just speculation on my part. To my knowledge this is the only Best Original Score win of its kind, and I would love to know exactly what happened here and why.
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