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For me Kirstie Alley was sexier, but I didn't buy her as a Vulcan. I think she played it too human in delivery. Curtis was a more "by the book" Vulcan and she definitely took a more "Nimoy" approach to playing a Vulcan character. More believable as being a Vulcan for me. I'm not sure if Alley fit into the Star Trek Universe. I think she might have been a better Green Orion Slave girl.
This might sound strange, but at that time Genevieve Bujold might have made an interesting Saavik. I think she would have given the character more of a "coldness", not unlike what Jolene Blalock did with her Vulcan character of T'pol on STAR TREK ENTERPRISE.
Bujold was only eleven years younger than Nimoy; in 1982, at forty, she could hardly have played a still-wet-behind-the-pointed-ears Starfleet Academy graduate, though in an earlier age one can imagine her in the part, yes.
The gal who played Valeris in STAR TREK VI nailed the Vulcan thing pretty good.
Yes, had she played her cards right, Kim Cattral could've gone onto starring in Sex in the City on the Edge of Forever.
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Kirstie Alley will always be the real Saavik to me as well.
Robin Curtis was in a thankless role because Saavik had already been established as a more interesting, more authentic personality than what Nimoy wanted in ST3. Nimoy coached Curtis' Saavik characterization, and he threw out the personality we knew. For Curtis, Nimoy simply projected his own (finalized, late-TV series) Vulcan shtick onto a female. So she was very serious, reserved, and chilly, like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.
Alley's Saavik was warm to the touch, she was engaging and unguarded with people. Thanks to Nimoy, Curtis had to play it like the intelligent but insecure young person who hides behind a shield of formal manners and haughty disdain. That's just not as likeable.
Not that it matters, but I can't help linking Robin Curtis with Robyn Douglass of GALACTICA 1980 fame. I can't think of one without the other coming straight to mind.
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Kirstie Alley will always be the real Saavik to me as well.
Robin Curtis was in a thankless role because Saavik had already been established as a more interesting, more authentic personality than what Nimoy wanted in ST3. Nimoy coached Curtis' Saavik characterization, and he threw out the personality we knew. For Curtis, Nimoy simply projected his own (finalized, late-TV series) Vulcan shtick onto a female. So she was very serious, reserved, and chilly, like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.
Alley's Saavik was warm to the touch, she was engaging and unguarded with people. Thanks to Nimoy, Curtis had to play it like the intelligent but insecure young person who hides behind a shield of formal manners and haughty disdain. That's just not as likeable.
Not that it matters, but I can't help linking Robin Curtis with Robyn Douglass of GALACTICA 1980 fame. I can't think of one without the other coming straight to mind.
I agree, Kirstie had personality. Robin was a cardboard cutout. Not blaming the actress but the performances are night and day.
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Kirstie always struck me as a female Ray Liotta.
Goodfellas will never be the same for me again :-(
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I know she was meant to be half Romulan, but that was cut from the movie.
Vulcan ethnicity is like the hardest illegal narcotics: it has to be cut with something or it's deadly. Spock is half human, Saavik (the original, good version) is thought to be half Romulan.
Pure Vulcan characters are boring unless they have some way to break out of Surak's straitjacket. Sybok had to be a heretic and possibly crazy to be interesting. (Great actor, but that alone would not have been enough.) T'Pol was dreary until she went through a brain-altering story arc and became a great character. By contrast, the uncut, straight-laced Vulcans tend to be terrible entertainers.
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I agree, the only exception was Mark Lenard as Sarek.
Thanks, but Sarek married outside his race, was in love with his human foil, and that rounded off his Vulcan edges considerably. He was eccentric as hell. So my rule holds. 
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