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 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Nedmerrill   (Member)

Some of my favourite soundtracks still have dialogue between tracks, such as Get Carter and Escape From New York. My Question is are you able to tolerate those distractions by ignoring them when listening to a CD or do you programme them out or skip those tracks completely?

I personally remove them on my mp3 player, but can still tolerate them on cd.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

I generally remove them where possible, but sometimes they simply become a part of the album’s unique listening experience for me. The ‘94 Blade Runner is a good example of this. You come to anticipate the dialogue. It functions in much the same way another instrument would. And that’s one case where you really can’t separate the excerpts out. Still, I long for the day that film’s score is released complete, chronological, and without overlaid dialogue.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

No. No I cannot. If dialogue excerpts were a person I would strangle them with my bare hands and then gouge their eyes out with my thumbs.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Nedmerrill   (Member)

No. No I cannot. If dialogue excerpts were a person I would strangle them with my bare hands and then gouge their eyes out with my thumbs.

Beautiful words! Nice to find a passionate soundtrack enthusiast.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

ONLY if they are clearly separated from the rest of the tracks and not actually a part of the music. If I can simply not import the dialogue tracks and the soundtrack sounds like it would if there was no dialogue In there to being with, I'm good.

Some soundtracks have some really sloppy editing where I'll hear the last syllable of spoken dialogue from he dialogue track make it's way into the beginning of the music track which flat out suuuucks. That's what kept me from getting the 'Escape From New York' soundtrack.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   Nedmerrill   (Member)

ONLY if they are clearly separated from the rest of the tracks and not actually a part of the music. If I can simply not import the dialogue tracks and the soundtrack sounds like it would if there was no dialogue In there to being with, I'm good.

Some soundtracks have some really sloppy editing where I'll hear the last syllable of spoken dialogue from he dialogue track make it's way into the beginning of the music track which flat out suuuucks. That's what kept me from getting the 'Escape From New York' soundtrack.


'Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater', Escape From New York is an excellent soundrack!

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

I can't stand it. I was very upset to discover how much of the Babe soundtrack was dialogue. I don't really have any other examples in my personal collection because I try to avoid them like the plague.

EDIT: I have Casablanca downloaded but I've yet to listen to it because of the dialogue.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Depends on whether it is thrown in, or artfully conceived.

The recitations on the original "Dark Shadows" album are essential. The album is simply not as good as an all-instrumental album.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Definitely not a fan of dialogue on a soundtrack. Most of the Sony edition of The Alamo had too many excerpts that detracted from the listening experience, and I’m not just referring to the tracks that already had dialogue on the LP.

Johnonymous, I also find the dialogue on Casablanca’s soundtrack off-putting. While it doesn’t take care of the rest of the score, the compilation listed below has a clean music-only version of the main title so you might want to try looking for that:

http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=43717

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

No.

I appreciate that in some cases - Six Degrees of Separation - it was there to pad out the album to a releasable length, but mostly it does nothing but harm the listening experience. These movies are easier enough to find now. Leave the albums for music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   Nedmerrill   (Member)

No.

I appreciate that in some cases - Six Degrees of Separation - it was there to pad out the album to a releasable length, but mostly it does nothing but harm the listening experience. These movies are easier enough to find now. Leave the albums for music.


Agreed. 'Leave the albums for the music'.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

For those of us who love concept albums, dialogue can indeed be a welcome addition to a soundtrack album if it is artfully conceived.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No

Unless there is no other option.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I don't know, thought the Apocalypse Now LP was pretty neat with the dialogue. Meatballs, too. Then again, I know there are some that I found annoying, just can't recall which ones.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   jurassicmaromaro   (Member)

Dialogue on albums is stupid. The musical album exists to showcase the music. If you want to hear dialogue with music, then turn on the movie and close your eyes.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

Definitely not a fan of dialogue on a soundtrack. Most of the Sony edition of The Alamo had too many excerpts that detracted from the listening experience, and I’m not just referring to the tracks that already had dialogue on the LP.

Johnonymous, I also find the dialogue on Casablanca’s soundtrack off-putting. While it doesn’t take care of the rest of the score, the compilation listed below has a clean music-only version of the main title so you might want to try looking for that:

http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=43717


Thanks! Will have to check that out--I have the old Silva compilation that has a suite by City of Prague Philharmonic but it would be nice to hear the original without dialogue.


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On further consideration, one of the few instances that I can kind of accept is The Wrath of Khan. Nimoy's V/O is non diagetic so it works as a part of the piece of music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Mostly no. But three examples I've never minded:

Flash Gordon and Dune on the silly scifi end of the spectrum - I still enjoy playing those albums with the dialogue from time to time, even through I have one of the expanded Dune releases.

Stevie on the more serious end of the spectrum. Which makes sense as it's about the poet Stevie Smith and some of her works are incorporated into the album just as they were into the movie. When performed by Glenda Jackson and Trevor Howard, who am I to argue! (So glad this long-lost LP is available on digital sites.)

On the other hand, for example, I absolutely HATE the dialogue snippets in Addison's brilliant Sleuth - they are utterly random and useless, and play over my favorite number to boot!

I don't recall dialogue in the original Escape from New York, wondering if that's the extended version.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

Not at all a fan. I can live with Spock's dialogue on Wrath of Khan. Otherwise, I can't really think of any soundtrack that benefitted from dialogue and can think of several that were harmed by dialogue. Hannibal is one of the more frustrating albums. Great score, terrible placement of dialogue.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   jurassicmaromaro   (Member)

Not at all a fan. I can live with Spock's dialogue on Wrath of Khan.

Ah, interesting example. That actually is a relatively acceptable version of this, but I think it’s because the music was specifically composed to sync with the voiceover as a monologue and to literally give it space - almost like an opera performance. That said, it would be great to have a version without the voiceover too.

However the Prologue to Beauty and the Beast for example is something that I think does exist separately and tells a story independently of the music. There is one version of an album release that plays without it and it’s gorgeous.

I think the worst ones were the Octopussy soundtrack (which was already too short of an album) and the original Apollo 13 release. Also one of the Phantom Menace albums had a really dopey montage of Duel of the Fates intercut with dialogue from the movies.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Hey Michael, you familiar with the old Batman TV series album? You might find it enjoyable even with the stupid non-ep dialogue added. Uh oh, not sure if it was a true soundtrack album...

 
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