Has it even been revealed why Goldsmith didn't score this sequence? I can't find anything in the notes. I know that he was in and out of treatment at the time but it seems odd he wrote literally everything else, and supervised/conducted the source music, but skipped the climatic action cue... Was he simply being generous towards McKenzie?
I'm sure it must have been a logistical matter of some kind. Either health-related or otherwise schedule-related. It was 6.5 minutes of busy action music, so would have been quite a few pages of writing/days of work. Perhaps some day I'll interview McKenzie and ask him.
This is one of my least favorite Goldsmith's scores.
I certainly understand it not being counted as a favorite, but I can't fathom what in this score could be considered musically offensive enough for it to be at the very bottom of his output for someone.
Very reminescent of Rambo in a bad way.
How so, exactly? For me the only way that could be the case is if the musical Rambo features Jerry explored further in this were the dated 80s synth "farts". But they are mercifully absent from this score. If anything it's like a less dated sounding Rambo relative. Do you just hate mournful trumpet solos, or something?
The fact that the movie is uterly stupid doesn't help - two army assholes fighting to prove who has the Bigus Dickus!
Since when did the stupidity of a movie affect the quality of Goldsmith's work?
This is one of my least favorite Goldsmith's scores.
I certainly understand it not being counted as a favorite, but I can't fathom what in this score could be considered musically offensive enough for it to be at the very bottom of his output for someone.
Very reminescent of Rambo in a bad way.
How so, exactly? For me the only way that could be the case is if the musical Rambo features Jerry explored further in this were the dated 80s synth "farts". But they are mercifully absent from this score. If anything it's like a less dated sounding Rambo relative. Do you just hate mournful trumpet solos, or something?
The fact that the movie is uterly stupid doesn't help - two army assholes fighting to prove who has the Bigus Dickus!
Since when did the stupidity of a movie affect the quality of Goldsmith's work?
Yavar
I'm going to be on my death bed still declaring about those Rambo synths... it's a sizzle, not a fart!
This is one of my least favorite Goldsmith's scores.
I certainly understand it not being counted as a favorite, but I can't fathom what in this score could be considered musically offensive enough for it to be at the very bottom of his output for someone.
Very reminescent of Rambo in a bad way.
How so, exactly? For me the only way that could be the case is if the musical Rambo features Jerry explored further in this were the dated 80s synth "farts". But they are mercifully absent from this score. If anything it's like a less dated sounding Rambo relative. Do you just hate mournful trumpet solos, or something?
The fact that the movie is uterly stupid doesn't help - two army assholes fighting to prove who has the Bigus Dickus!
Since when did the stupidity of a movie affect the quality of Goldsmith's work?
Yavar
Indeed, but in this case the movie is not only stupid, it is quite boring. Not even Goldsmith could save it. But he tried bravely nontheless.
The sound quality is greatly improved. Much more punch now and the synth is clear. I listen to the CD nonstop back in the day. Hard to believe it’s 20 years old now. Great release.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The synth is not so much my focus when listening so that is not something I would have thought of. I will have to do a side by side later to see what you mean. Are there certain cues where it is more noticeable ?
I'm enjoying this score in the Intrada presentation more than I ever did before. Possibly the original album was always unfairly tied to 9/11 in my mind, and all the awful feelings about that event. It is a really nice score, and the additional cues have a mournful quality that work. The note from Malcolm McNab in the liner notes was a special touch. I won't complain about the $30 price tag!
According to the track listing on the tray card, the singer "Dean Hall" has mysteriously morphed into "Dead Hall" since the original album release. Poor fella...
According to the track listing on the tray card, the singer "Dean Hall" has mysteriously morphed into "Dead Hall" since the original album release. Poor fella...
Dead Hall singing a song called "Chiseled in Stone". How poetic!
I'm enjoying this score in the Intrada presentation more than I ever did before. Possibly the original album was always unfairly tied to 9/11 in my mind, and all the awful feelings about that event. It is a really nice score, and the additional cues have a mournful quality that work. The note from Malcolm McNab in the liner notes was a special touch. I won't complain about the $30 price tag!
I liked the score before, but I admit I like it a lot more now in complete form. Doesn't overstay its welcome at all; flows great!
Random post about this score... My apartment complex here in LA is a courtyard building and so inevitably you can at times hear someone else's TV or stereo... Tonight someone across the courtyard is watching THE LAST CASTLE on full blast cause I was sitting on my couch and heard the Goldsmith trumpet melody clear as day! So it's not just my apartment that neighbors will hear Jerry at times!
Random post about this score... My apartment complex here in LA is a courtyard building and so inevitably you can at times hear someone else's TV or stereo... Tonight someone across the courtyard is watching THE LAST CASTLE on full blast cause I was sitting on my couch and heard the Goldsmith trumpet melody clear as day! So it's not just my apartment that neighbors will hear Jerry at times!
This...is Awesome!
I used to play a game, that there was a Jerry film running at all times. Used to challenge anyone, grab the TV guide, or scroll the 976 channels and it never took long to prove it....a Jerry Goldsmith film was once running, everywhere at least once a day. Awesome.
Do you just hate mournful trumpet solos, or something?
