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 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

What cues were composed by Mark Mackenzie?

You're savaging Goldsmith's score without knowing which cues he wrote? Typical.


You may be a spy, but you are no master, that's for sure.

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

You may be a spy, but you are no master, that's for sure.

You’ve come on awfully “strong” since your unfortunate arrival this year, so it’s on the ignore list you go.

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Has it even been revealed why Goldsmith didn't score this sequence? I can't find anything in the notes. I know that he was in and out of treatment at the time but it seems odd he wrote literally everything else, and supervised/conducted the source music, but skipped the climatic action cue... Was he simply being generous towards McKenzie?

I'm sure it must have been a logistical matter of some kind. Either health-related or otherwise schedule-related. It was 6.5 minutes of busy action music, so would have been quite a few pages of writing/days of work. Perhaps some day I'll interview McKenzie and ask him.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

This is one of my least favorite Goldsmith's scores.

I certainly understand it not being counted as a favorite, but I can't fathom what in this score could be considered musically offensive enough for it to be at the very bottom of his output for someone.

Very reminescent of Rambo in a bad way.

How so, exactly? For me the only way that could be the case is if the musical Rambo features Jerry explored further in this were the dated 80s synth "farts". But they are mercifully absent from this score. If anything it's like a less dated sounding Rambo relative. smile Do you just hate mournful trumpet solos, or something?

The fact that the movie is uterly stupid doesn't help - two army assholes fighting to prove who has the Bigus Dickus!

Since when did the stupidity of a movie affect the quality of Goldsmith's work?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Um, some really dumb movies have had SUPERB scores

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

Um, some really dumb movies have had SUPERB scores

This.

Graham

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Um, some really dumb movies have had SUPERB scores



wink

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

This is one of my least favorite Goldsmith's scores.

I certainly understand it not being counted as a favorite, but I can't fathom what in this score could be considered musically offensive enough for it to be at the very bottom of his output for someone.

Very reminescent of Rambo in a bad way.

How so, exactly? For me the only way that could be the case is if the musical Rambo features Jerry explored further in this were the dated 80s synth "farts". But they are mercifully absent from this score. If anything it's like a less dated sounding Rambo relative. smile Do you just hate mournful trumpet solos, or something?

The fact that the movie is uterly stupid doesn't help - two army assholes fighting to prove who has the Bigus Dickus!

Since when did the stupidity of a movie affect the quality of Goldsmith's work?

Yavar


I'm going to be on my death bed still declaring about those Rambo synths... it's a sizzle, not a fart! smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 5:28 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

This is one of my least favorite Goldsmith's scores.

I certainly understand it not being counted as a favorite, but I can't fathom what in this score could be considered musically offensive enough for it to be at the very bottom of his output for someone.

Very reminescent of Rambo in a bad way.

How so, exactly? For me the only way that could be the case is if the musical Rambo features Jerry explored further in this were the dated 80s synth "farts". But they are mercifully absent from this score. If anything it's like a less dated sounding Rambo relative. smile Do you just hate mournful trumpet solos, or something?

The fact that the movie is uterly stupid doesn't help - two army assholes fighting to prove who has the Bigus Dickus!

Since when did the stupidity of a movie affect the quality of Goldsmith's work?

Yavar


Indeed, but in this case the movie is not only stupid, it is quite boring.
Not even Goldsmith could save it.
But he tried bravely nontheless.

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Um, some really dumb movies have had SUPERB scores



wink

Yavar


Krull is far from being dumb.
It is a masterpiece movie and Ken Marshall pants rules!

 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2020 - 10:39 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

The sound quality is greatly improved. Much more punch now and the synth is clear. I listen to the CD nonstop back in the day. Hard to believe it’s 20 years old now. Great release.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The synth is not so much my focus when listening so that is not something I would have thought of. I will have to do a side by side later to see what you mean. Are there certain cues where it is more noticeable ?

 
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