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 Posted:   Nov 10, 2021 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

At 1:41 it says "A Musical Fantasy In Ten Parts" and there's music playing during this title card. So what are they going to do? Digitally change the "Ten Parts" to "Nine Parts", or just ignore the discrepancy? This is a special club release presumably for die hand fans of classic Disney. Why do they continue to market their product for the wrong consumer base? Kids would have no interest in this title to begin with.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2021 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

At 1:41 it says "A Musical Fantasy In Ten Parts" and there's music playing during this title card. So what are they going to do? Digitally change the "Ten Parts" to "Nine Parts", or just ignore the discrepancy? This is a special club release presumably for die hand fans of classic Disney. Why do they continue to market their product for the wrong consumer base? Kids would have no interest in this title to begin with.

That seems to be what they’re doing, only they’ve digitally removed the “in x parts” altogether (this was what they did on the censored DVD as well) And I also agree with your last statement as kids today probably don’t even know it exists, let alone be interested in it, except maybe the Peter and the Wolf segment (which is arguably the best known part of the film, which I personally consider the weakest of the Package films).

 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2021 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

So there's no commercially uncensored version available? I didn't realize the DVD was censored too.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2021 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Please take your books and DVD's to your nearest Disney Drop Off point, where they can be incinerated accordingly.
You will need your papers and ID badges for verification.
Please comply within the next 2 DAYS to avoid a Home Visit from our Disney Enforcers.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2021 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

So there's no commercially uncensored version available? I didn't realize the DVD was censored too.

At least not in the US, I’ve read that some overseas releases at the time have the uncensored version. I don’t really understand the censoring of Martins and the Coys myself. The gunplay in the film (one of the cited reasons for the censoring) is really no worse than what you’d see in Looney Tunes and the supposed spousal abuse angle doesn’t really come into play until the very end of the segment, though it does accentuate some hillbilly stereotypes (I’m really glad Disney does not have Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, otherwise we might see them banning that as well).

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2021 - 1:13 AM   
 By:   TheAvenger   (Member)



Does anyone remember the pre-episode straight-to-camera stuff with West and Ward in the days of Batman '66 where they actually said "we cannot fly" (so please don't jump out of windows etc.)? Absolutely sure they happened, though my memory here is actually from the time.


I don’t remember that but I do recall there were alternative credits for Gerry Andrerson’s Captain Scarlet & The Mysterons which had Colonel White saying “Captain Scarlet is indestructible - you are not! Remember this - Do not try to imitate him”. Good job too, otherwise impressionable Young me might have been tempted to test my luck driving a car into a nuclear reactor or getting shot at by a Helijet.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2021 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

So there's no commercially uncensored version available? I didn't realize the DVD was censored too.

At least not in the US, I’ve read that some overseas releases at the time have the uncensored version. I don’t really understand the censoring of Martins and the Coys myself. The gunplay in the film (one of the cited reasons for the censoring) is really no worse than what you’d see in Looney Tunes and the supposed spousal abuse angle doesn’t really come into play until the very end of the segment, though it does accentuate some hillbilly stereotypes (I’m really glad Disney does not have Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, otherwise we might see them banning that as well).


Having watched the segment recently I see why they took it out. Not that I agree with them. But it hits all the hot buttons. Gunplay, On Screen Murder, Sexualization of Woman, Domestic Violence (though it could be the female doing the violence). I can see Disney execs seeing this and having a sh*t fit with their current sensitivities!

But again I'm only seeing it thru their eyes. Ive seen this episode I'm sure many times as a child and young adult and just thought it was silly over the top parody with some great animation in it. Never took more out of it. I'm sure most others see it as I do. I think they continually look for problems that don't exist and think they need to "fix" what isn't broken.

 
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