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 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 1:54 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Another quick question, if I may.
The old Varese Suites edition...did the suites keep to a uniform style (like, all pleasant music together and scares/stingers in each/their own track) or would a nice track blend into a horror track within the same suite)?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 3:16 AM   
 By:   SilentWitness   (Member)

Another quick question, if I may.
The old Varese Suites edition...did the suites keep to a uniform style (like, all pleasant music together and scares/stingers in each/their own track) or would a nice track blend into a horror track within the same suite)?


There's a nice track in each suite. The scary stuff is mainly in the first three suites which all blend together. There are no sudden scares/stingers though. On the original album there's nothing that makes you jump out of your chair. The last two suites are more moody/nice, depending on personal taste. Those two plus the song also play as one track. It's definitely easier to program your personal favourites using disc 2 of the Quartet release.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 3:38 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Thanks.
There's nothing worse (to me) than being lulled into a nice cosy mood of music and then hit with a bang or clang of dissonance or screechings.
Of course, it works fine within the film, but needs work as a standalone listening experience for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thanks.
There's nothing worse (to me) than being lulled into a nice cosy mood of music and then hit with a bang or clang of dissonance or screechings.
Of course, it works fine within the film, but needs work as a standalone listening experience for me.


He, he. Yeah, like the sudden, 'mad woman' dissonant screech in Williams' JANE EYRE.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 2:21 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Think you’d be alright with this Kev, particularly in the original album suites. The moods all change pretty gradually from the dreamier moments into the dark stuff. Don’t really recall any too sudden, out of the blue ‘stingers’ in this one. The music often gradually changes to the darker mood before then introducing the more pulsing or violent moments. There’s maybe one quick transition but that’s it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

I wonder if anyone will re-release Jarre's Mosquito Coast next year? I used to like that, as well as Witness of course. A friend of mine had those scores, Mosquito on cassette of all things, which probably indicates how old they are.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 2:59 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Thanks for the Intel, chaps.
I can see me buying this 2 disc edition to savour the best of both worlds.
I've only fallen for this score since someone linked that Suite in this (or the other) thread and the sad theme blew me away.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 6:01 AM   
 By:   Jacob singer   (Member)

SilentWitness, that's a very informative post, thank you for that, most appreciated.

My pleasure :-)
Just learned that the film version of what I call "Chiro Flashback" consists mostly of David Hykes and the Harmonic Choir: "Hearing Solar Winds, Part 3: Arc Descents". Ammended my post accordingly.

On average, percentage wise, how much of this score is pleasant, dreamy stuff with the John Barry like tragic theme, and harsh stingers and electronic scare music/sound design?

It's mostly moody sound design. The dreamy stuff featuring Jarre's tragic theme is all present on the original album. The pleasant, melancholy stuff amounts to perhaps 11-16 minutes on disc 2, maybe 20 minutes, depending on your definition of pleasant and dreamy.


I just heard David Hykes arc descents and it can fit perfectly in the movie,but it miss the Maurice Jarre sound.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   nerfTractor   (Member)

On average, percentage wise, how much of this score is pleasant, dreamy stuff with the John Barry like tragic theme, and harsh stingers and electronic scare music/sound design?
Thanks in advance.


I’ve found over many listens that this is actually a comparatively thematic score, although there are long sections of what most would consider (extremely well done and engaging IMO) sound design or ambient music. There are at least three recurring themes (wistful piano theme, a major key theme for memories of family life, and a soprano vocal “otherworldly” theme/motif) with several other patterns and fragments lending structure to the piece. I’ve only just begun familiarizing with the score presentation on the marvelous new Quartet release, but Jarre’s original assembly reveals a much more “composed” score than might be apparent from watching the film.

There are of course some jarring (sorry) accents for on-screen action that some might consider scare music or jump stingers, which I generally dislike very much, but to my ears the ones here give more a sense of a “sudden chill” than something to make you jump out of your seat. Yes there are surprising moments, though, and I may be jaded after hearing it so often for decades.

In short, I adore this underrated score, much more melodic and beautiful than it’s often given credit for, and am thrilled it’s been reissued. If this new presentation wins it some admirers that’s even better.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2020 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   SilentWitness   (Member)

The rabbit hole goes deeper still: I just noticed that the film version of "Burning Pictures" is actually "Surveillance". Fits the scene much better, too.
And what I thought was an unreleased drone instead of "We've Been Watching You" is actually "Antidote", only without the vocal and the additional instruments. Fixed my earlier post accordingly.
Now I wonder if the first 27 seconds of Quartet's "Burning Pictures" might not have been intended for the car attack scene early in the film. In the film there's an unreleased high synth string sustain that leads straight into a shortened "Who Are You?". Would work well with the scene, too.
It also seems that the first 29 seconds of "Train Trauma" are a separate cue. Maybe that's the actual "Surveillance"? Length and mood would fit. But of course now I'm just speculating.

 
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