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 Posted:   Nov 18, 2020 - 6:00 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

A couple weeks ago I found myself needing a break from election tension so I hit the remote and turned to TCM. What a welcome relief to join The Ghost & Mrs. Muir already in progress! I had come in just as the Captain was starting to dictate his memoir.

There was no tearing me away from a positively radiant Gene Tierney and the wonderfully romantic Herrmann score. The perfect tonic.

One of my favorite moments in the film occurs earlier when Mrs. Muir reminisces about Edwin, her deceased husband. The soundtrack cue “Poetry” underscores the scene. I don't know if anyone could outshine Rex Harrison reciting Keats' “Nightingale.” The combination of her elegance and his eloquence and that music had me swooning.

A similar reaction occurs whenever I watch an equally radiant Jane Seymour wax poetic about the man of her dreams in Somewhere In Time. To a wonderfully romantic Barry score, of course.

When I listen to Muir on its own I am compelled to watch the film. When I watch the film I am compelled to listen to the CD. The same thing happens with that scene in Time and its cue on the CD vice versa.

Two ravishing beauties waxing poetic, one about a man lost, the other a man yet to be found, and both to music that is just so right.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2020 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   thx99   (Member)

I have nothing more to add except to say that I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post, Howard! Well-written and honest. Goes to the very heart of why we’re fans of film music.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2020 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   Saul Pincus   (Member)

Two ravishing beauties waxing poetic, one about a man lost, the other a man yet to be found, and both to music that is just so right.

Passionate music, for passionate people, in stories about passion.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2020 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

My very favorite Herrmann score. I'm not attached to the movie but the score gets me every time. First time I heard it was in the 70s whenever it was that Elmer Bernstein re-recorded the score.

Somewhere in Time is a film I never liked, but that music! Perhaps the best known music to a flop film ever. That music gets played at weddings, funerals, you name it. It really has a life of its own apart from the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2020 - 7:41 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Somewhere in Time is a film I never liked, but that music! Perhaps the best known music to a flop film ever. That music gets played at weddings, funerals, you name it. It really has a life of its own apart from the film.

This film had a second life on cable. People used to watch it like Rocky Horror.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2020 - 10:57 PM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)

Two ravishing beauties waxing poetic, one about a man lost, the other a man yet to be found, and both to music that is just so right.

Howard, it's wonderful and thoughtful posts like this one that, on their own, justify the existence of this board.

Two unique and fabulous romantic fantasies, graced by two of the most gorgeous scores ever written.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2020 - 11:01 PM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)

Somewhere in Time is a film I never liked, but that music! Perhaps the best known music to a flop film ever. That music gets played at weddings, funerals, you name it. It really has a life of its own apart from the film.

That would be CUTTHROAT ISLAND, another film I actually liked.

And yes, I doubt SOMEWHERE IN TIME was a flop after video and cable sales were factored in. A romantic fantasy, even one with as well done as this, was going to be a tough sell even in 1980.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2020 - 11:22 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Why Howard L, You are a poet at heart!

Two elegant scores where one can easily disappear into without any compulsion.

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2020 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Two of my favourite scores right there.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2020 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Two ravishing beauties waxing poetic, one about a man lost, the other a man yet to be found, and both to music that is just so right.

Howard, that was a lovely, elegant write up. Must check out both movies again.

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2020 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   bigjimwilson   (Member)

I know I've read every word on this page.... I've got to the bottom and realised none of it's gone in, and I'm still thinking about Jane Seymour smile

Lovely post Howard!

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2020 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Sadly Big Jim, although beautiful, she was a notorius bitch on set to cast n' crew, it seems widely known.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2020 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Sadly Big Jim, although beautiful, she was a notorius bitch on set to cast n' crew, it seems widely known.

First I'm hearing of this. Doesn't sound like her at all, especially on this film.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2020 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I remember watching The Ghost & Mrs Muir with my mum, sometime in the 80s on TV and loving both the film and the music.
I tracked down the Elmer Bernstein LP recording on Varese Sarabande soon after and it's still my favourite version of the music.
It's probably my Number One favourite Bernard Herrmann score too.
I saw Somewhere In Time, also sometime in the 80s, this time on video, and loved it immediately for its tragic/romantic swoonery and old fashioned-ness. I remember filling up during the first 10 minutes (with the old lady) and thinking 'shit, this film is gonna finish me at this rate'.
And again, the music was a shining factor in the emotional attachment that drew me into the film and its success to me.
It's certainly in my Top Three of John Barry scores.
As well as those two poetic moments Howard lovingly recounts, both films feature tragic endings with a 'reunited in death' finale.
Scenarios that have always provided memorable fare for tortured/romantic cinemagoers.
Nice thread H.

smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2020 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Sadly Big Jim, although beautiful, she was a notorius bitch on set to cast n' crew, it seems widely known.

First I'm hearing of this. Doesn't sound like her at all, especially on this film.

James


I have no idea about the set of this film, James, merely that it seems to be her rep. Ive read or heard that from more than 1 source over the years. No idea if its accurate or exaggerated.

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2020 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)


Lovely summary Howard. Both scores and fims are exactly as you describe. Reading such an honest and heartfelt post inspires me to visit them again as well. "Love Is A Many Splendored Thing" makes me feel this way too, one inspires the other. Thank you

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

"I have nothing more to add except to say that I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post, Howard! Well-written and honest. Goes to the very heart of why we’re fans of film music."

***

Goes to the heart of why I'm a fan of Howard.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Sadly Big Jim, although beautiful, she was a notorius bitch on set to cast n' crew, it seems widely known.

Hard to believe she was bitchy on the set of Wedding Crashers. Not with that cast

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

Depending of what day it is, my nominees for best score ever written are THE GHOST AND MRS. MUIR and PLANET OF THE APES. Herrmann gave the film a soul.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2020 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I mentioned earlier in this thread that the Ghost and Mrs. Muir was my favorite Herrmann. And that is really saying something, especially when you consider all those Hitchcock scores, the Harryhausen films, Jane Eyre, Citizen Kane, the Magnificent Ambersons, All That Money Can Buy, Obsession, Taxi Driver, and so many more.

 
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