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 Posted:   Nov 22, 2020 - 5:50 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

When I listen to Muir on its own I am compelled to watch the film. When I watch the film I am compelled to listen to the CD. The same thing happens with that scene in Time and its cue on the CD vice versa.

That's from another thread so consider this one a spin-off.

Whether it's an entire film--in the case of The Ghost & Mrs. Muir--or just a scene--in the case of Somewhere In Time, the compulsion to watch or listen stems from a powerful score as heard in the film or from powerful music as heard standing alone on a CD (or other medium).

Another full film watch that has me itching to play the CD and vice versa is Dancing With Wolves. Every time. Throw in Mockingbird CD and it's a scene or multiple scenes. Throw in The Best Years Of Our Lives and it's the whole damn thing both ways.

And take John Williams, e.g. Off the top of my head--"Fortress of Solitude," last 40 min. or so of CE3K, "The Map Room," "Cadillac of the Skies," and "Hymn to the Fallen." Watch and it's get me the CD. Listen and it's get me the film to one degree or another.

Oh the marriage between really good film and music.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2020 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Must I read this?

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2020 - 11:19 PM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

I often watch movies or tv episodes just because I want to listen to the score. Even if I already have the score on CD.
It's like watching music videos big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2020 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

This "phenomenon" does not exist to me. My soundtrack listening and film viewing are two completely different activities that have nothing to do with each other.

However, I'm often "inspired" to seek out a film or listen to a piece of music based on strange associations. For example, every time I see Newman in SEINFELD, I feel an urge to rewatch JURASSIC PARK. After seeing a slow indie art film, I get the urge to watch an action-filled Hollywood blockbuster, and vice versa.

And if I listen to a piece of music that has discrete electronic elements, I might feel an urge to listen to a PURE electronic score or album.

Stuff like that.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2020 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

This "phenomenon" does not exist to me. My soundtrack listening and film viewing are two completely different activities that have nothing to do with each other.

I will sometimes want to listen to the album after watching the film, but I rarely feel compelled to watch a film after listening to the music.

In fact, I can think of a few beloved soundtrack albums for films that were so bad, I wish that I had never watched the films in the first place.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2020 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Yeah, sure I get the urge to watch a lot of films after I listen to the score. But then real life gets in the way or I just don't have the mental energy for it.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2020 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   Big Jim T Wilson   (Member)

I absolutely get this Howard. I've also been delving into so many films and scores as a result of people talking about them during the zoom chats. Plenty of great suggestions by yourself! Wait Until Dark was last night smile

Sometimes something will come on random while I'm working, and I suddenly need to put that film on my list. I'll even get partway through a film and think "ah, sod it, I need to listen to that bit on its own!" so I go grab the CD or LP. I think the vast majority of my score appreciation is inseparable from my appreciation of the film it accompanies. Not a blanket rule, of course... we all have favourites that we can happily listen to but can't stand watching!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2020 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I'm in Howard's gang here. The two are linked beyond doubt. I often get the urge after doing one, to do the other. As he says, this is the evidence of how well the two are melded together. There is no way I could ever say they are completely the opposite. If that's the case, surely the composer has done a bad job? Or at least the director or producer has got the wrong composer?

Back in the 70s when I bought Bernard Herrmann compilations thanks to the Phase 4 series, just to get to film music that I wanted it got me to listen to other tracks that were on there. As a result I discovered Hitchcock!! I was pretty much a kid btw..

In all the years I got Morricone's work for the Italian westerns I never saw anything other than the Doallars trilogy. Boy oh boy did I long to see stuff that I only had music for! Relatively speaking I've really only just managed this.

But Howard is absolutely spot on.



 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2020 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

My angle on this is that seeing the film is when I fall for the score and want to buy it. And later, seeing the film again can make me want to revisit the CD as an encore.

But playing the scores I love does not make me want to pop the movie in. I don't have time for that many movies.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2020 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Who does?! The question is do you feel the compulsion just the same?

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2020 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Who does?! The question is do you feel the compulsion just the same?

Not really. I usually play the movie in my head while listening to the score, re-imagined to suit me because so few films are just right. Very often I dream up a whole different mental movie for great music.

 
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