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 Posted:   May 14, 2021 - 4:10 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

12/12/72 Pursuit (I didn't know this lost TV movie score was a Fox project, but Wikipedia claims it was a 20th Century Fox Television production, even though the DVD release is from MGM. So I'm not sure whether this qualifies as a Fox owned thing, even if tapes were found.)

Distribution rights to the 1972 PURSUIT are with ABC/Buena Vista/Disney. The reason the DVD came from MGM is because it was included in a package of ABC-owned titles. The package also included the Selznick titles and things like THE NIGHT STALKER TV movie, KRAKATOA EAST OF JAVA, etc. Kino subsequently released most of that package on Blu-ray, including PURSUIT.


So what was Fox's involvement (if any) in Pursuit then? (Why does Wikipedia claim it was a Fox production?)

Is it safe to eliminate from this list, do you think? I've been meaning to update in light of LLL's latest release...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2021 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

12/12/72 Pursuit (I didn't know this lost TV movie score was a Fox project, but Wikipedia claims it was a 20th Century Fox Television production, even though the DVD release is from MGM. So I'm not sure whether this qualifies as a Fox owned thing, even if tapes were found.)

Distribution rights to the 1972 PURSUIT are with ABC/Buena Vista/Disney. The reason the DVD came from MGM is because it was included in a package of ABC-owned titles. The package also included the Selznick titles and things like THE NIGHT STALKER TV movie, KRAKATOA EAST OF JAVA, etc. Kino subsequently released most of that package on Blu-ray, including PURSUIT.


So what was Fox's involvement (if any) in Pursuit then? (Why does Wikipedia claim it was a Fox production?)

Is it safe to eliminate from this list, do you think? I've been meaning to update in light of LLL's latest release...

Yavar



Wikipedia probably says it was a Fox production because the IMDB includes Fox in their list of "Production Companies." But I don't believe that Fox had any involvement. For a time, Fox was the distributor for MGM DVDs, so someone may have taken that credit off the DVD of PURSUIT that MGM released for ABC and attributed it to the production.

If Fox did have any involvement in the production, they don't have any current ownership rights. When the copyright tp PURSUIT was renewed in 2000, the sole registered owner became American Broadcasting Companies, Inc.

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2021 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Thanks very much for the info, Bob -- I'll remove it since it sounds like Disney territory, i.e. if tapes can even be found it'd be Intrada to release it.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2021 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Thanks very much for the info, Bob -- I'll remove it since it sounds like Disney territory, i.e. if tapes can even be found it'd be Intrada to release it.

Yavar


Pursuit is still my #1 Goldsmith grail. That funky main theme simply is great!



 
 
 Posted:   May 16, 2021 - 12:51 AM   
 By:   chromaparadise   (Member)

Yavar, here's an important update for your list: From my research and study of Goldsmith's original sketches at the Academy Library in January 2020 (mere days before the pandemic took hold), I can advise that JUSTINE is NOT complete.

There are (at least) 4 cues missing:

R3-P4 – COHEN'S DEATH
R8-P3 – TOTO'S DEATH
R10-P1 – THE BALCONY
R13-P1 – THE LOVERS

“Cohen's Death,” “Toto's Death” and “The Balcony” are short but highly emotional cues (Goldsmith at his best) that totals a minute and a half of music. “The Lovers” is 4 pages/29 measures and runs 1:30 on screen—an elegiatic piece with long, dramatic phrases.

It's also very sad and frustrating to report that virtually all of the sketches to JUSTINE that were included in the London re-recording for Mainstream Records back in '69 did NOT find their way back to the balance of the handwritten sketches—their whereabouts presently unknown...

It would be great if this forgotten gem could be presented complete and have the audio given the same kind of robust restoration that "Rio Conchos" and others have gotten.

John O'Callaghan

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2021 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Wow, thanks for the update John! I will revise my first post based on your exciting revelation, and I hope LLL considers revisiting the film recording of Justine for their new Goldsmith at 20th series, even if they opt to leave the album recording off (since I think it is owned by Universal Music Group now).

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2021 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   KansanN323   (Member)


3/27/74 A Tree Grows in Brooklyn (The Varese Fox box includes about half of this gorgeous half hour score; it is one of my most wanted expansions from this new LLL series.)

Yavar


I 100% agree about "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn." The morning that the original box set came out and I saw that it was part of the Jerry Goldsmith Collection I honestly started to cry. Also, I had been out of work at the time and was living off of my credit cards but I knew I couldn't risk not getting it and even if I had to live off of Ramen Noodles for months, well, so be it. It truly was the score that I never imagined in a million years would be available. THE Holy Grail for me at the time. The theme is gorgeous and after watching the movie the first night it aired back in 1974 it was ingrained in my spirit so deep that the next day I figured out how to play it on the piano even though I was just 11 years old.

Puh-leeze, La La Land!

Todd

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2022 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I dug up this thread to remind myself of John O'Callaghan's post about Justine, and realized I had never updated it with the Goldsmith Odyssey Soundtrack Spotlight episodes! We skipped over the first two volumes because we were swamped with other podcast projects, and they were mostly reissues, with only a single added 51 second cue for The Flim-Flam Man... but here's the first we did for this series, with guest Jeff Bond:
https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/8553668-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-goldsmith-at-20th-vol-3-flaming-star-1960-the-stripper-1963-s-p-y-s-1974



And I guess I also completely forgot to bump this thread for the release of Vol. IV in the series, which at first impression might just seem like straight reissues, but in fact included a complete night-and-day restoration of Ace Eli and Rodger of the Skies by the audio wizard Chris Malone, who joined us and Jeff for this Soundtrack Spotlight:
https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/9378792-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-goldsmith-at-20th-vol-4-ace-eli-and-rodger-of-the-skies-1973-tora-tora-tora-1970



And if anyone is curious to hear the Take Her, She's Mine Soundtrack Spotlight I mentioned above in this thread, with special guests Mike Mattesino, Chris Malone, and John Takis... it serves as something of a prelude to the Goldsmith at 20th series, and it can be heard here:
https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/6920147-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-take-her-she-s-mine-1963



I hope folks enjoy these if they haven't discovered them already! Can't wait to see what's next in this series.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2022 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Jerry Goldsmith at 20th Century Fox Television

Air Date Title

9/19/65 Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea "Jonah and the Whale" (The LLL expansion in their series box set earlier this year is complete, and even includes a previously unknown theme re-do Goldsmith came back to record a week later.)
9/18/65 The Loner "An Echo of Bugles" (The FSM and later remastered LLL editions feature everything Goldsmith recorded for this series, albeit annoyingly in one lump track per episode rather than individual titled cues.)
10/16/65 The Loner "One of the Wounded" (see above)
3/14/66 The Legend of Jesse James "Things Just Don't Happen" (This unreleased western TV show -- though UCLA has copies of the entire single season run I think -- is supposed to feature a single Goldsmith score for this episode.)
rec. 1968 Nick Quarry (unaired, unsold pilot) (The FSM premiere release of this with The Stripper is complete.)
9/17/69 Room 222 "Richie's Story" (pilot, aka "The Problem with Ritchie")
10/15/69 Room 222 "The Flu" (Both episode scores are complete on the FSM premiere CD.)
8/26/70 Prudence and the Chief (unsold pilot) (This retelling of Anna and the King set in the west has a fantastic Goldsmith western score, from which he re-used the main theme as a secondary theme in Rio Lobo later that same year.)
12/4/70 Bracken's World "A Score Without Strings" (Goldsmith's score, and score-within-a-score, can be heard in the full episode at this link from Ray Faiola: https://vimeo.com/481240210)
9/17/72 Anna and the King "Pilot" (The Varese Goldsmith at Fox box includes all but a handful of very short cues. The biggest omission is the second half of the "March of the Royal Children" which is awkwardly edited out, even though it plays mostly "in the clear" during the episode itself.)
10/15/72 Anna and the King "Anna's Romance" (The Fox box only includes two cues from this score.)
11/12/72 Anna and the King "The Chimes" (The Fox box also only includes two cues from this score.)
3/27/74 A Tree Grows in Brooklyn (The Varese Fox box includes about half of this gorgeous half hour score; it is one of my most wanted expansions from this new LLL series.)
rec. 1974 The Best of Times (unaired, unsold pilot) (I found this in the UCLA archives and what a premiere it could be, if found in the vaults! Sounds like it would be Goldsmith's An American Tail... "Topol plays a carpenter who heads an immigrant family living on the Lower East Side of New York in 1912." https://cinema.library.ucla.edu/vwebv/holdingsInfo?searchId=137&recCount=50&recPointer=259&bibId=159724)
6/18/75 A Girl Named Sooner (Goldsmith's final known TV project for Fox; the only edition is the FSM paired with The Flim-Flam Man, and it is supposed to be complete although its companion score was said to be as well, but just got expanded, so one never knows.)


So almost this entire Goldsmith at Fox TV output has just been wiped off the wishlist... behold The Goldsmith Odyssey's podcast preview of LLL's imminent 600th release, a 2 CD set featuring significant expansions of Anna and the King and A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, plus the premieres of Prudence and the Chief (the complete score) and Only in America (two minutes which could be pulled off the mixed audio). With over 40 minutes of previously unreleased Goldsmith, this is the most significant release in LLL's Goldsmith at 20th series by far, and the most significant Goldsmith original recording premiere in some time! There are of course generous sound samples to entice you into acquiring this important new album...

https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/11302249-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-goldsmith-at-20th-vol-v-music-for-television-1968-1975



Looking forward to hearing what folks think!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2022 - 10:27 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Wonderful discussion on the making of this new 2cd set!!!

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2022 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Glad you enjoyed it, Amer! Easily the greatest Goldsmith at 20th release for me so far. (And I say that as someone who friggin' *loves* SPYS in complete form! wink )

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2022 - 9:54 PM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Yes..a great double disc cd and one of the highlights so far this year for me.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2023 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

3/14/66 The Legend of Jesse James "Things Just Don't Happen" (This unreleased western TV show -- though UCLA has copies of the entire single season run I think -- is supposed to feature a single Goldsmith score for this episode.)


Update on this: my intel had been incorrect that this was the episode of the series scored by Goldsmith. A friend of mine viewed the episode at UCLA a few months ago and confirmed it was scored by Alexander Courage instead.

And just today, Jon Burlingame kindly informed me that, based on music editor Len Engel's logs, the correct episode scored by Goldsmith was "The Man Who Was", which aired 12/13/1965. The episode exists in the UCLA Film and Television Archive for anyone interested to view it:
https://search.library.ucla.edu/permalink/01UCS_LAL/1hnia1h/alma99762153506533

Here's hoping the score can turn up in the Fox archives, and be included on a future Goldsmith at 20th volume from La-La Land...

Yavar

 
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