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 Posted:   Jan 3, 2022 - 2:21 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Somebody should simply reissue the Blu Ray discs as a standalone set.
I already have the set with the DVD versions of the CS.

At lease I wont have to rebuy the whole expensive thing again!


If you have the CS set in any version, there is no need to rebuy it again.

The Audio-DVD has the exact same content as the Blu-ray (same mastering, same resolution).

The DVD set has the advantage that it's easier to rip.

Not sure there would be a market for a Bluray disc only edition, though they could consider releasing the multi-channel mix as a download version.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2022 - 5:21 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

On the flip side, I'd gladly buy a 10 CD reissue in a nice slimeline package (or 11, throw in the rarities disc. Or hell, 12....add the Symphony).

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2022 - 5:33 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I have to admit I really like the LOTR sets, the packaging is very nice, the extensive booklets very informative and well pressed on thick high-quality paper.

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2022 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   Frank Vincent   (Member)

On the flip side, I'd gladly buy a 10 CD reissue in a nice slimeline package (or 11, throw in the rarities disc. Or hell, 12....add the Symphony).

It should be a 13 CD release, as the symphony includes 2 CDs.

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2022 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Disc rot does exist and it's a well understood phenomenon.

No, not every disc will rot. Most won't. But some will. And, yes, it is because of poor pressing, but it is nevertheless a very gradual process that can take years.

Just because there are CDs that are 30 years old that haven't rotted, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Laserdiscs were particularly prone to it, presumably because of their greater size. I had first edition laserdiscs of Star Wars and The Omen, neither of which played by the time I finally gave up my laser disc player.

In terms of CDs, my first Silva Screen CD of Damien Omen II rotted.

I presume that in those occasions where you have to bend the disc nearly in half to get it out of it's holder, you increase the chances of breaking the seals slightly and letting the oxygen in.

Cheers


This.

I only personally have had the problem with Laserdiscs. It is really common in the star Trek lasers.

 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2022 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

The only thing that has rotted on my LOTR sets is the packaging. Gravity has taken it's toll in the last 15+ years and the book-like sets are collapsing. I moved the CDs into 3 or 4 disc chubby cases.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2022 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   Johnny W   (Member)

I just sampled some tracks from Qobuz's High-Res downloads with my own rips from the Audio-DVD from tracks like "Parth Galen" and "The Fighting Uruk-Hai".

The spectograms of the LOTR-FOTR DVD-Audio high-res stereo tracks are identical to the spectograms of the Qobuz high-res download.


I can't download Hi-rez from Qobuz, but they might have fixed the situation.

HDTracks is no longer carrying their original warning ("Tracks 29-37 are encoded 48kHz/24bit files, but were analyzed and confirmed as 48kHz/16bit." ).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2022 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Was there ever a resolution regarding the digital files for Fellowship of the Ring.

I looked at HD Tracks, hoping the issue was fixed by now, but the bit rate and file size of the tracks from disc 3 is way lower than the rest of the album.

HD Tracks responded, saying:

"The affected files are definitely not encoded at 44.1/16, but rather encoded up to 48/24".

When they say "encoded up to" are they basically still upscaled?

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2022 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

I have the same problem with my LOTR dvd-audio discs. The cds are fine.

I have an extensive collection and to date have lost only about 11 titles to disc rot. Almost all of them were from WB Records. And I have several WB dvds from the late 1990s/early 2000s that are now unplayable. Again few of my other dvds have had this issue.

I had laserdisc for a short while in the 1990s and disc rot was very common then. In every case faulty manufacturing is the issue. Generally the silver layer with the data encode is applied to the top of the plastic disc and a seal placed over that, then the label. The adhesive in the label was sometimes not manufactured to spec and allowed oxidation of the data layer underneath. Or the seal may have been applied incorrectly. In either case over time the data becomes corrupted and the disc unplayable.

I should note that the disc manufacturers spent a lot of time and money on a disinformation campaign from "experts" to discredit the reports of disc rot. Court cases ultimately forced some of them to provide replacements especially in Europe. Here in the US courts and politicians are overly deferential to large companies and there was less action taken to assist customers.

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2022 - 1:15 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)



Not sure there would be a market for a Bluray disc only edition, though they could consider releasing the multi-channel mix as a download version.


A downloadable High Resolution release would be terrific !!!

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2022 - 2:47 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)



Not sure there would be a market for a Bluray disc only edition, though they could consider releasing the multi-channel mix as a download version.


A downloadable High Resolution release would be terrific !!!



Especially when it's encoded in Dolby Atmos! Bring it on, Apple!

 
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