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Dec 19, 2021 - 7:10 PM
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jb1234
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I think you have more patience or hope than I do. I've generally returned to listening to concert works of the 20the century. They are more fun and musically rich for me. And I can learn an awful lot still from Bartok, Stravinsky, Varese, Shosty, Ravel, etc etc
I've been listening to a fair amount of more contemporary concert music, like Rautavaara, Lindberg, Higdon, Liebermann. Most new film music just doesn't do it for me anymore. Too many cooks, too many compromises (assuming the composers have talent to begin with).
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Dec 20, 2021 - 9:34 AM
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Tom Servo
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Still absorbing this score and coming around to more of it... it's still falls short of Davis's work on the previous films, but what I'm finding that it's sum is greater than its parts. I whittled it down to about 50 or so minutes and it works well in total, but there aren't the individual "hit single" tracks as there are with the Davis scores, such as "Burly Brawl" or "Women Can Drive", which you can keep returning to repeatedly. Also, there's less emphasis on brass, so it lacks that towering sense of strength heard before, especially in Reloaded and Revolutions.
I'm finding more recurring thematic ideas, however, such as that undulating string figure first heard halfway through "Two and the Same". It shows up several more times, in some cases in an action format. There's also a low end piano figure which seems an homage to what underlines "Neodammerung" and a brighter chromatic figure that seems inspired by Davis's Neo/Trinity theme (but I could be wrong).
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Dec 23, 2021 - 6:03 AM
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Smaug
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I think you have more patience or hope than I do. I've generally returned to listening to concert works of the 20the century. They are more fun and musically rich for me. And I can learn an awful lot still from Bartok, Stravinsky, Varese, Shosty, Ravel, etc etc
I've been listening to a fair amount of more contemporary concert music, like Rautavaara, Lindberg, Higdon, Liebermann. Most new film music just doesn't do it for me anymore. Too many cooks, too many compromises (assuming the composers have talent to begin with).
I was holding off until seeing the film but the score is pretty generic…as in it could belong to any action movie. Two composers, four “additional music” composers, a squadron of orchestrators…and for what. As far as I know they just used disc three on the Godzilla vs Kong soundtrack.
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Ben Watkins from Juno Reactor comments on the Matrix 4 score:
"Ok, might as well say it, Orchestrally it doesn't shine a light anywhere near what don would have done, it is to me at buss stop No 1 or 2 in scoring, percussion wise I hate those rhythms that feel like they are falling backwards performed by a seal, and electronic "bugger bugger bugger" throbs seem so lazy when there are so many dimensional abilities these days, by many great electronic artists. no tunes to remember! it sounded like dropping the needle in scenes no webbing. lastly I felt it worked but was not what I would have liked to hear, unlike the Dune score which was impressive with the film."
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Ben Watkins from Juno Reactor comments on the Matrix 4 score:
"Ok, might as well say it, Orchestrally it doesn't shine a light anywhere near what don would have done, it is to me at buss stop No 1 or 2 in scoring, percussion wise I hate those rhythms that feel like they are falling backwards performed by a seal, and electronic "bugger bugger bugger" throbs seem so lazy when there are so many dimensional abilities these days, by many great electronic artists. no tunes to remember! it sounded like dropping the needle in scenes no webbing. lastly I felt it worked but was not what I would have liked to hear, unlike the Dune score which was impressive with the film."
Wow that’s pretty impressive that he went on record with his sentiments. Thanks for sharing this.
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Jan 6, 2022 - 11:53 PM
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Tall Guy
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Ben Watkins from Juno Reactor comments on the Matrix 4 score:
"Ok, might as well say it, Orchestrally it doesn't shine a light anywhere near what don would have done, it is to me at buss stop No 1 or 2 in scoring, percussion wise I hate those rhythms that feel like they are falling backwards performed by a seal, and electronic "bugger bugger bugger" throbs seem so lazy when there are so many dimensional abilities these days, by many great electronic artists. no tunes to remember! it sounded like dropping the needle in scenes no webbing. lastly I felt it worked but was not what I would have liked to hear, unlike the Dune score which was impressive with the film."
Wow that’s pretty impressive that he went on record with his sentiments. Thanks for sharing this.
I think he’s wrong about “no tunes to remember” but colourfully amusing with some of the rest of his descriptions. However, ultimately he recognises that the score works, which it absolutely does. Not being what he wanted to hear doesn’t devalue it by the smallest degree.
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Has anyone ordered this recently and received a pressed copy?
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